Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/02/04

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Subject: [Leica] Down Loading M8 firm ware update.
From: ken at iisaka.org (Ken Iisaka)
Date: Mon Feb 4 20:21:12 2008
References: <200802042323.m14NNEbx049409@dragonsgate2.imagecraft.com> <C3CD3CEA.893D0%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I'm still with the thought that a full-size sensor isn't necessary.  My
M8/Summilux 35mm combo has completely replaced my M6/Noctilux, and is
perhaps a whole pound lighter.  The image quality is better in most
situations, too.

When the full-frame M body comes out, I'm not 100% sure if I will switch
right away.  Besides, by looking at the advancement of the sensor
technology, the quality can be expected to be better than today's
silver-halide film (look at the images with Nikon D3 at ISO6400 or higher.
Just amazing.) that I'm not sure if I will need a Noctilux.  It is likely
that I may be happier with a M9/Summilux 50mm.

On 2/4/08, Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh absolutely, I didn't mean to imply a full frame 35mm sensor for
> > the M would be easy :-)
> >
> > As for being hand-made: Leica stresses that the M7 and MP are
> > hand-made, that has to be mostly true with the M8 too right? Well, at
> > least hand assemble. A chuck of electronics, a chunk of shutter, a
> > chunk of RF :-) Why, may be they should sell a DIY kit for 20% off or
> > something like the old Heathkit Electronics :-)
> >
> > At 02:55 PM 2/4/2008, G Hopkinson wrote:
> >> Richard, as you say the assemblies may well be partly modular and
> >> there are less complications than in an SLR. Probably not too much
> >> completely manual assembly in the bodies these days but I guess the
> >> upgrades are entirely by hand. Really though the technical
> >> challenge must be to source a 35mm frame size sensor that will do
> >> the job. Don't forget that the current one is a custom design and
> >> had to be made for the short lens to focal plane distance. If that
> >> was easy the current M8 would have had one from the start! As to
> >> the prices, I think the factors are long well understood. This is a
> >> Leica group ;-) The idea of offering upgrades though, I think is
> >> laudable. Just what ones will be available and whether people are
> >> willing to pay for them, we shall see. My bet is that the current
> >> first offered upgrade will mainly cause everyone who has yet to buy
> >> an M8 but wants one, to wait a little longer. The new
> >> improvements must make it into serial production. Any possible
> >> future upgrade including a 35mm sensor will be a very different story
> >> for current owners, in my opinion.
> >> cheers
> >> Geoff
> >
>
>
> If the M8 turns out to be upgradeable to 24x36 I will buy it.
> If not I will wait for the M9.
>
> I cant imagine I'm alone in this thinking.
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> markrabiner.com
>
>
>
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Replies: Reply from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson) ([Leica] Down Loading M8 firm ware update.)
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