[Leica] When in doubt ask photographer

[tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)]

Tarek Charara offered quite unmistakenly!
Subject: Re: [Leica] When in doubt ask photographer

 

>>Ted,I think we are thinking this the other way around: it's not about the
photographer, it's about wether the subject is concentrated or not on what
he's doing. Believing the subject could "forget" that the photographer is in
the room or around him taking pictures, is just wrong.<<<

Excuse me? 

I don't know what the hell is wrong with some of you people when you are
dealing with a photojournalist with over half century experience of working
in the fashion we're discussing. Then have the audacity to tell me I'm
WRONG!! :-( Get stuffed!

I have nothing to gain by explaining to you exactly what these experiences
are, but you people are the ones who are wrong! Damn it if I sound angry I
bloody well am! 

When I explain to you of daily experience with published books to back it up
not to mention the assignments, do not tell me I'm wrong!

>>>The photographer can be ignored, but that doesn't mean that the subject's
unconscious mind isn't aware of his presence and/or that the photographer
isn't altering the scene by his presence.<<<

Look if you walk into a room and have 2 minutes to get some quick hit and
miss snap you maybe right. 

But what appears to be happening here is, you are not listening nor do you
understand the difference between a 2 minute hit and run compared to a 5 day
or 5 weeks day after day shooting in the environment of the subject or
subjects you're documenting.

Your lack of understanding that it's possible to be there and not have
absolutely any influence on the subject or subjects is in direct ratio to
your inexperience! Certainly compared to a photojournalist of some merit in
this field regardless of the subject and time.

Thank you all for listening, but for crying out loud get with the program
and listen to experience!

Have a nice day!

ted