Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/09/22

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Subject: [Leica] parts change and firmware compatibilty
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (G Hopkinson)
Date: Sat Sep 22 15:46:35 2007
References: <092220070454.16810.46F49FE800000DAA000041AA219792474103010CD2079C080C03BF970A9D9F9A0B9D09@mchsi.com> <46F502A2.8080401@gmx.de>

Douglas, I think that the likely reason has been plausibly documented in 
this thread. One exacerbating point might be Leica's
imperfect translation of this type of notice for English speakers. You may 
know something of that issue. But errors do slip through
even with legitimate information. Even from posters with "prevoiously 
excellentcredibility". ;-) ;-)

Cheers
Hoppy


-----Original Message-----:55
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 482

Stan and Gene,
do you inform your customers every time, and in such a way that makes 
them think what they had before was somehow not up to scratch? I doubt it.

Looking back on Leica's recent track record - like refusing to admit 
that the early R8 was scratching films, that the flash system didn't 
work right, that the DMR wasn't going to be ready for a long time and 
many others - they certainly lost a lot of their prevoiously 
excellentcredibility. Leica was more credible when they remained 
secretive and built "perfect" products. There are better ways of 
creating persuasive product awareness than information like they 
recently published.

An interesting comparison: The same thing happened to Rollei with their 
SL2000F, and ruined the company's 35mm SLR business, even though they 
managed to correct the problems and went on to build the excellent 3300.
Cheers
Douglas

grduprey@mchsi.com wrote:
> Very true.  I have about 3 or more engineering change orders every week 
> for approval to use a replacement part where the suppliers
have changed or replaced a part with a new one, which may or may not be an 
exact fit or function replacement.
>
> Gene
>
> -------------- Original message from Stan Yoder <s.yoder@verizon.net>: 
> -------------- 
>
>
>   
>>> If I'm a manufacturer I don't go around telling people I'm having to 
>>> botch something together because I don't have the parts - IMO, the silly 
>>> buggers could just as well have kept quiet about the new version. 
>>>
>>>       
>> What? And have another bunch of neurotic yahoos bitch about Leica's 
>> buggery 
>> secretive practices? 
>>
>> And anyway, it's not about not having parts, it's about a supplier 
>> changing a 
>> part, which happens 
>> all the time in most product lives. 
>>
>> Stan Yoder 



In reply to: Message from grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey@mchsi.com) ([Leica] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 482)
Message from douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp) ([Leica] Re: LUG Digest, Vol 35, Issue 482)