Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/03/02
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Don, I have no trouble believing that. I was just a bit surprised. I know photographers who don't meter at all, but know how to set the exposure accurately because they know the light and the film they are using very, very well. Robert > Robert, > What you don't see is that Ted is the master of his craft. Meaning, take > a > meter reading from what? I have watched Ted shoot casually in Cape Cod > and > he is truly a master of choosing what to meter from even with an M7. I am > not even sure that he is conscious of what he is doing. Truly, light, > eyes, > action, shoot. > > Don > don.dory@gmail.com > > On 3/2/07, Robert Meier <robertmeier@usjet.net> wrote: >> >> >> Ted, >> >> So what you are saying is that you shot at the film maker's recommended >> exposure index (except when pushing the film), and developed it at the >> developer maker's recommended time and temperature, for your whole >> career, >> and never saw any need to vary either one? And you always used an >> average >> exposure reading without taking specific shadow or highlight readings? >> >> That is certainly keeping it simple. >> >> Robert >> >> >> > Many have offered great details and how one should "do it" on this >> > subject. >> > Subject: [Leica] re: Exposure and Development >> > >> > However. :-) >> > As many of you know I'm no more techie with film, "expose for shadows >> soup >> > for whatever" than I am with digital... my gosh far worse with digital. >> > Shooting slide film? In that case I expose for the highlight and >> > everything else ended up wherever it ended up. Always seemed to work. >> :-) >> > >> > B&W film was very nearly always rated at the manufacturers ASA and >> souped >> > for their specs. Unless I pushed a stop or two, but then the times were >> > those recommended by the maker of the film. Usually. >> > >> > And it always seemed to work OK. The quality of the negatives never >> > deterred us from making lots of 35mm 16X20 exhibition prints out of our >> > darkroom trays over the years. Certainly doing as I always >> have.......... >> > "KISS!" >> > >> > If the film how to soup instruction was 6 mins. @ 70 degrees, agitation >> > every 30 secs, that was fine and that's what was done. Close anyway. >> > ;-) >> > But they always seemed to look OK and print just fine. >> > >> > George Lottermoser said: >> > >> > >> >> The point I wished to make in starting this thread: >> >> Fine photographic technique requires that the photographer >> 'know' where >> >> s/he wants shadows and highlights fall on the negative, transparency >> >> and/or chip. This requires knowledge of how to control the shadows >> >> and >> >> highlights through the use of exposure and development of the >> material, >> >> whether chemical or digital.<<<< >> > >> > Maybe I do this unconsciously just from years of exposing and souping >> > my >> > film. But I can honestly say I've never consciously related to exposing >> > for shadows and souping for highlights or vice versa or whichever it's >> > supposed to be. Maybe the tooth fairy has always looked after me in the >> > darkroom. Or maybe I just hate complications and live life with a KISS >> > attitude. If it works? "Cool" as the young folks say today! :-) If I >> > screw-up? Well the standard expression fits......... "Oh S.....t!" >> > >> > My gut feelings about this expose develop routine comes down to major >> > simple this way............. it really doesn't matter how the heck >> > other >> > soul's do their film! It's far more important ..... "HOW YOU DO YOURS! >> > " >> > You know why? >> > >> > Each person turns the can upside down differently, they agitate with >> > various actions, the temperature isn't on the mark in everyone's tank, >> nor >> > are the times absolutely to the second identical! It's really, to each >> his >> > own and never mind doing as others do, but use their technique as a >> > guideline. Gradually you'll find it works for you or it doesn't! >> > Eventually you'll achieve the results "YOU" like! But we each and >> > everyone, never soup nor expose absolutely identical! >> > >> > KISS folks that's what it's all about for each shooter. Oh and souper! >> ;-) >> > >> > ted >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leica Users Group. >> > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >