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Subject: [Leica] Exposure and Development
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll)
Date: Thu Mar 1 14:34:28 2007
References: <C20C98BB.47191%mark@rabinergroup.com><45E731C3.3090706@wanadoo.nl> <45E74D1A.2020606@waltjohnson.com>

Hi Walt,

I agree with you, and this is a general old rule I didn't know was
established by Eugene Smith. The only thing is that developping for shadows
on my experience increase the grain. I'm no longer developping myself my
films, when I does it I've decided to do long and very compensate
developping processes, sometimes with stoping the development and putting
the film in a water bad. IMO, except if you search some special effects or
you work with medium or bigger format, a carefully develpping is enough for
almost all situations.

The zone system is a very good school to learn and know better the
photography techniques, many years ago I've played it, now I think that it
is similar to the first piano exercises for a pianist.

Saludos cordiales
Luis 
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
Walt Johnson
Enviado el: jueves, 01 de marzo de 2007 23:01
Para: Leica Users Group
Asunto: Re: [Leica] Exposure and Development


W. Eugene Smith taught me a fantastic way of putting this together.....

Expose for the shadows .......Develop for the highlights...

Processing has little or no effect on shadow detail but is the cats meow in
terms of highlights..... While Ansel made almost exclusive use of the
reflected meter most pros today can be seen reading the scale on a Minolta
incident meter. When talking about the effects of exposure and development
on film it's better to use "dense" and "thin". Best way to get a grip on all
this is to practice. Next time you find yourself lusting after  a new lens
buy film instead.

Walt
>
>> On 3/1/07 1:53 PM, "Lottermoser George" <imagist3@mac.com> typed:
>>
>>> Under exposure and overdevelopment do not properly describe fine 
>>> photographic technique.
>>>
>>>
>>> The terms:
>>> 'over exposure' implies too light and blown highlights 'under 
>>> exposure' implies too dark and lost shadows 'over development' 
>>> implies blown highlights 'under development' implies lost shadows.
>>> In all cases these terms also imply poor technique, and lack of 
>>> control and/or understanding of what's going on with your materials 
>>> and chemistry.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>> george@imagist.com
>>>
>

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