Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/03/01

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Subject: [Leica] Neopan-Xtol Xpert-Tease Sought - Cutting-To-Chase Version
From: michiel.fokkema at wanadoo.nl (Michiel Fokkema)
Date: Thu Mar 1 11:02:10 2007
References: <C20C8B45.47172%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark Rabiner wrote:
> On 3/1/07 1:33 PM, "Michiel Fokkema" <michiel.fokkema@wanadoo.nl> typed:
> 
>> Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>>> I've also used 1+3 for 12min. But this gave me too much grain.
>>>>
>>>> Shooting at 1600 gives me way too much contrast.
>>>
>>> Michael contrast is controlled by film development. Not exposure. Which 
>>> is
>>> setting your ISO at a different number.
>>>
>> Doesn't overexposure and underdevelopment lower contrast and increase
>> shadow detail? At least that is what  I see in the techdocs of Xtol.
>> I always thought we have to expose for the shadows and develop for the
>> highlights?
>> I guess I have to try again on  1600 and develop less.
>>
> 
> 
> Mainly what is lowering contrast is the fact that its getting less
> development. The highlight density is lowered so the whole tonal range of
> the neg is lowered..
> 
> The fact that you are then over exposing raising the density of the thin
> shadow tones as well as the high tones making for a  kind of veiling.
> This could be called the lowering of contrast. But it's a side issue to 
> that
> effect.
> It's by now a thoroughly trashed neg. (being hard on you but its true)
> 
> If one errs on the side of underexposure at least we end up with a clean
> well separating neg. we could loose shadow detail. But our eye goes there
> last. After its decided its seen a viable image.
>  
> Our overall impression of the print is fixed in our eye by the look of the
> lighter areas. We go to the light.  We look at shadow information later. If
> we have the time.
> 

Thanks Mark,

Saturday night we have Museum night here in Rotterdam. I will certainly 
shoot a few rolls and do as you advise.


-- 
Best regards,

Michiel Fokkema


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