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Subject: [Leica] A Modest Proposal
From: h_arche at yahoo.com (H. Ball Arche)
Date: Thu Oct 19 18:38:02 2006

But Walt, irony builds up the blood.

--- Walt Johnson <walt@waltjohnson.com> wrote:

> Now Harvey
> 
> Wasn't there a discussion the other day about fat
> America? The corporate 
> farmers feed the livestock hormones to make them
> fat. America women eat 
> too much and they begin to resemble ??? Well, you
> are what you eat but I 
> won't eat no damned gun nut!.
> 
> H. Ball Arche wrote:
> 
> >And then fed to the Vegans.
> >
> >--- Buzz Hausner <buzz.hausner@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Gun owners should be lined up against a wall and
> >>shot.
> >>
> >>    Buzz
> >>
> >>
> >>On 10/19/06 7:38 PM, "Philip Forrest"
> >><photo.forrest@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I think that owning an assault rifle for home
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>defense is impractical, yes.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>However, if one believes in protecting oneself,
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>family and property, law
> >>    
> >>
> >>>enforcement doesn't do that for you.  There is no
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>reason that a law abiding
> >>    
> >>
> >>>citizen cannot responsibly own and use a firearm
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>of any type (small arms
> >>    
> >>
> >>>here, not artillery pieces & the like.)  I love
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>target shooting and though I
> >>    
> >>
> >>>don't know if it should be considered a "sport"
> it
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>certainly requires great
> >>    
> >>
> >>>discipline and training to be able to
> consistently
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>and accurately place
> >>    
> >>
> >>>shots on target.  It's just a step below golf in
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>it's level of discipline
> >>    
> >>
> >>>and ability, but much the same when it comes to
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>the final goal.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Fear is what drives irrational decisions.  A gun
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>will not shoot itself, we
> >>    
> >>
> >>>all know this.  The only way a firearm will do
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>what it's supposed to is if a
> >>    
> >>
> >>>person operating it makes it work.  Fear is what
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>needs to be overcome by
> >>    
> >>
> >>>people who don't know anything about firearms. 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>They should be shown that a
> >>    
> >>
> >>>firearm is just a tool, the same way that a
> torque
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>wrench is a tool.  They
> >>    
> >>
> >>>have very specific purposes, but both are tools
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>nonetheless.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I have no problem with people who don't like
> guns,
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>but for rational reasons.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Anti-gun folks need to come up with real and
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>equitable solutions to the
> >>    
> >>
> >>>problems they have that will WORK.  There will
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>never be a United States
> >>    
> >>
> >>>where firearm ownership is not a right, so that
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>side of the gun argument
> >>    
> >>
> >>>needs to come up with a realistic solution to the
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>problems they have with
> >>    
> >>
> >>>firearms.  The AWB proved that gun violence did
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>not decrease during the 10
> >>    
> >>
> >>>years it was effective.  10 rounds in the
> magazine
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>or 100 rounds, it doesn't
> >>    
> >>
> >>>matter.  Assault weapons are used in so few
> crimes
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>as to be a blip on the
> >>    
> >>
> >>>radar in comparison to the gun related crimes
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>committed with Raven .25's or
> >>    
> >>
> >>>other cheap guns.  The average assault weapon
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>starts at about $600.  Few if
> >>    
> >>
> >>>any criminals are going to be willing to put that
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>kind of money into a
> >>    
> >>
> >>>firearm when they could get a cheap pistol for
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>$30.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>The only way that crime with firearms is to be
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>quelled is by large scale
> 
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