Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/09/15

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Subject: [Leica] Re BW modes
From: bd at bdcolenphoto.com (B. D. Colen)
Date: Fri Sep 15 04:40:40 2006

I'm arguing against bw capture, Hoppy. However, IF it were possible to have
bw RAW capture , it would cut down considerably on post-capture image work.
Kodak back when announced a BW only DSLR - 18 mgp, bw only. But it turned
out to be the filmiest of vaporware.


On 9/15/06 12:23 AM, "G Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> Mark and B.D. not trying to be obtuse here, but what advantage is there to
> capture as BW?
> 
> Cheers
> Hoppy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> MARK DAVISON
> Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 12:24
> To: lug@leica-users.org
> Subject: [Leica] Re BW modes
> 
> B.D. Colen wrote:
> 
>> Any camera's BW mode is and has to be jpg-only, Chris - unless someone has
>> a
> tiff bw mode I don't know about.
> 
> 
> The Nikon D200 will do BW mode with RAW.  The BW becomes a direction for 
> how
> the NEF (Nikon's RAW format) file is processed by the Nikon editor, and the
> embedded .jpg preview is black and white.
> 
> Unfortunately other RAW converters do not honor the BW information in the
> NEF file, so this scheme only works with the Nikon software, and not with
> Adobe Bridge.
> 
> Mark Davison
> 
> 
> 
>> From: "B. D. Colen" <bd@bdcolenphoto.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M8 hands on
>> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:42:18 -0400
>> 
>> RAW gives you what the sensor captures, no
>> more, no less - jpg gives you a combination of more and less, because it
>> gives you added sharpness, color adjustments, etc., but you lose some
>> dynamic range. As good as some built in bw modes are - and the one Olympus
>> has in the E330 and E500 is terrific, and I have no reason to assume it
>> isn't just as good in the M - you're still much better off shooting raw 
>> and
>> converting yourself. A tad slower in the end, but much more satisfying.
>> 
>> B.D.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/14/06 9:05 PM, "Christopher Williams" <leicachris@worldnet.att.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the review Tom. Is the BW mode for Jpeg only? I'm a RAW
>> shooter
>>> after getting my batch processing down.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
> 
> 
> 
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