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Subject: [Leica] Harvard tuition
From: scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin)
Date: Fri Sep 1 07:17:57 2006
References: <C11DB2B1.149AF%bd@bdcolenphoto.com>

I'm pretty Harvard'ed out. It's a cool place, but it directly
touches the lives of very few people.

I've explained in a previous post how my own father behaved
to put me and my bro' through college. Bro' went to Hopkins.
That's just the example that was set for me, so it's what I think
parenting should be regarding these matters. Nothing will change
my mind.

The high school valedictorian one class after me got into a
few Ivy's. When the financial aid folk came back and told
his dad what he should pay, he made the kid go to Loyola
College in B'more and live at home. You know, so he could
get a new car every three years and enjoy his nice tropical
summer vacations. They had lots more money than we did
(I grew up flat broke).

He was completely devastated. When he told me, what
could I say?  IMHO, there's a special place in hell just
waiting for his dear old dad.  No smilies.

Everyone has the right to make their own "lifestyle choices."

Scott

B. D. Colen wrote:

>Well glad to know how you really feel, Scott. ;-)
>
>Not only didn't I say I wouldn't keep them away from Harvard, I said I
>thought it was one of about three places that was worth the investment. And
>I didn't say I wouldn't support them in whatever they chose to do - I have
>told all my kids that. But 'what you chose to do' and 'what college you
>think you want to go to' are two different things, because ANY half decent
>undergrad program can be an excellent spring board for whatever a kid wants
>to do. If a parent doesn't have the $40 K for the lovely little liberal arts
>college - or Princeton - and can only send the kid by going deep into debt,
>or saddling the kid with debt (which I personally think is far, far, far
>more ludicrous and cruel than limiting college choice - because in far too
>many cases that debt burden limits later life/career choices) I think it's
>personally reasonable to say 'this is what I'll pay for.'
>
>
>On 9/1/06 7:19 AM, "Scott McLoughlin" <scott@adrenaline.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Again, I have to strenuously disagree.   My father stated very
>>plainly to me and my brother - "I will support you however I
>>can in whatever you choose to do."
>>
>>That's the right way, IMO, the only right way, to educate your
>>children.
>>
>>What if one's child is a topology genius, the "right thing to do" is
>>to keep them away from Harvard or Princeton and send them to
>>Podunk U. ?
>>
>>That line of reasoning is both cruel and ludicrous.
>>
>>Scott
>>
>>
>>B. D. Colen wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Absolutely right Don...I've long believed that if a kid can get into
>>>Harvard, MIT, Cal Tech, or maybe Stanford, it's worth turning tricks on 
>>>the
>>>corner to pay their way, because the name alone will take care of them for
>>>life. Otherwise - go to a good state school for undergrad, save money, and
>>>spring for grad school at a name school. Sure, there are other terrific
>>>private schools - but I don't think most of them are worth the tuition 
>>>when
>>>you compare what they'll provide versus what a good state school will
>>>provide for a fraction of the cost. But that's just my obviously biased
>>>opinion - which I held long before having any association with either
>>>Harvard or MIT...;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>On 8/31/06 8:11 PM, "Frank Filippone" <red735i@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Don, I must agree that you have posted all GOOD reasons to send your kid 
>>>>to
>>>>Harvard.....  Mine may not have been good reasons, but
>>>>to launch a kid into a career, he needs an edge.  Name brand schools 
>>>>provide
>>>>that edge.  The fact that he gets a good education,
>>>>well, he can get a good education at Podunk U as well..... It is what the
>>>>kid
>>>>does with the challenges that count.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Frank Filippone
>>>>red735i@earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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