Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/08/26

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Subject: [Leica] Re:Photos of M8 now D2x
From: scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin)
Date: Sat Aug 26 23:56:27 2006
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I just got a D200 to replace my D70, so I can't answer your first
question yet.

I got the D200 because (1) I already have Nikon lenses and
(2) it fit my budget.

But if the 5D is within your budget, I'd recommend making the
switch to the Canon full frame DSLR and not looking back.

Oddly, the purchase of the D200 camera has put me now in the "full
frame" camp. I set the D200 up, put a 24mm lens on it, and just thought
to myself - "I wished this had the same FOV as a 24mm lens on a film
camera."

And really, that goes for most of my other lenses. I wish I could use
the 105/2.5 for people shots at the same working distance as when
using a film camera. And so on, and so forth.

I picked up the 12-24/4 to go with my D70, but it's heavy (to me), 1
or 2 stops slower than commonly available wide primes, and has pretty
bad barrel distortion at the wider focal lengths; so it's not my prefered
solution.  Wouldn't it be nicer if a 28/2 just "worked like" a 28/2, as it
were, or Canon's 24/1.4, and so on.

For the "f2.8 is fast" zoom lens shooters, this is not, or is less of, an
issue, and I'd probably recommend the nicely built and nicely priced
D200.

But for prime shooters, the lack of reasonably fast wide primes is
a bummer when using an APS sensor.  I'm really interested to hear
the reactions of Leica M8 buyers when their lovely and dearly priced
28/2 or 35/1.4 take on the FOV of normals instead of the wides
they originally purchased.

I'm not crying into my beer or anything. The D200 is a pretty cool
camera, and like the D70, I think it's a very good value.  I'll 
certainly live :-)

Just my 2 cents.

Scott


Matt Powell wrote:

> As long as we're onto the Nikon Digital cameras, how is the D200 at
> 1600 (I'd usually convert to B&W)? The small images I've seen on
> flickr haven't given me a good idea of the quality, and fanboy digital
> sites mostly look at color and have terrible samples anyway.
>
> I've decided to move up from my D70 to something with a decent
> viewfinder, and it's either a D200 or a Canon 5d (which requires, of
> course, more planning ahead of time). I've already got a couple of
> lenses for both (my idea of a kit is a 20mm and a 50mm and maybe a
> flash) so the system isn't an issue.
>
> I'd like the full-frame and great high-ISO performance of the Canon
> (and Canon's 50/1.4 is much nicer than Nikon primes), but saving $1300
> would be a treat, unless I can figure out how to get rich selling
> plasma.
>

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