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Subject: [Leica] Magnum's Chris Anderson on Lebanon vs. Robert Capa/Chim Seymour
From: richard-lists at imagecraft.com (Richard)
Date: Thu Aug 17 23:37:54 2006
References: <44E55D06.4080902@adrenaline.com>

Scott, I just browsed through Anderson's gallery on Magnum Photo. What I 
feel is that they have a more fine arts and less journalistic quality to 
them. My humble opinions...

I tried reading Inferno, but I can't. I have to put the book down....

At 11:24 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote:

>Capa: If your pictures aren't good enough, you're not close enough.
>
>Yeah, we all know that old one, but it's relevant here.
>
>I feel I'm going to go out on a limb here, because the recent conflict
>is so sad, but....
>
>I think his pictures are mediocre *at best*. Basically amateurish
>snapshots.
>
>My favorites are: #28 of the photographs and the wounded leg; #33
>of pro Hezbollah protesters. And in that order of strong preference.
>
>But most of the pics, well, aren't close enough! Go through the
>series, and most of the shots have a voyeuristic distance - I feel
>no intimacy with the subjects.
>
>Most of the pics are of "collateral damage." I get it, the human
>face, and human cost, of a battle (war if you want).  But they fall
>flat for me. Here's where I think of Chim Seymour's work.
>
>I count myself fortunate to have seen a collection of Chim Seymour's
>photos recently at the National Gallery, and most were his pics of
>children in the aftermath of WWII.  My Lord, what a remarkable
>and moving set of photographs!!!!  I think it's in part because they
>somehow show *life*, both the pathos and the tidbits of joy and
>humanity (the famous one of the nun playing ball with the orphans,
>just for example).
>
>Anderson's pics pretty much suck by comparison: a blown up
>building; another one; a tiny figure of a man crawling around on a
>blown up building; blown up buildings at night; a dead person;
>a crowd of protesters; a parking garage with refugees; more blown
>up buildings.
>
>Horrors all, but such a bland rendition.
>
>Even his pic of the children playing in the shopping carts - there's
>no movement. Instead of a picture of children at play, the play is
>halted and we get a mugshot of a few children.
>
>These are moving subjects, yet I'm left completely unmoved.
>
>The majority of Anderson's pics are like snapshots - to use Eugene
>Smith's somewhat hyperbolic language, I don't feel like his pics
>make me "see into the heart, the very truth of the subject," in this
>case the devastation and the people who so sadly suffered it.
>
>And I'm only 40 and know Capa and Seymour only as historical
>figures. I'm not worshiping the PJ past or anything.  I think
>Nachtewey's (sp?)  work on this same kind of subject matter is
>far, far superior (just thinking of his Bosnia and African famine
>photos, for example).
>
>OK, so Nachtewey is a real ace, creme de la creme, and comparison
>isn't fair? OK. I can accept that.
>
>But still.... Am I the only one who thinks Anderson's pics fall
>short and just aren't very compelling?  And with subject matter
>like that, what is his excuse?
>
>Scott
>
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