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Subject: [Leica] Re:Panasonic releases the Lumix DMC-L1
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Fri Jun 23 18:06:12 2006
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Mehrdad,
I think that the difference is that in years past, film was the great
leveler.  If the lens line was OK then load up some film and away you go.
If you did not have a good lens line then you used the Zeiss/Pentax thread
and no worries.

Today, the camera does everything and you might be dependant on the RAW
converter if the brand turns out to be too obscure.  So, better safe than
sorry and on the way to Nikon/Canon who not only have complete lens lines
but are in no immediate danger of going out of busines like Minolta, Konica,
Olympus in the film business(before B.D. chimes in there were a lot of POed
folks that Olympus got out of the SLR business some time before the E-1
became reality).  Another difference this time around is the technology is
tough; last time around you could buy a copal shutter, hire some young girls
to assemble your body and Bob's your uncle.  Now, you have battery worries,
LCD suppliers, software engineers, chip supplies and in what quantity and
what price.

Another factor is we are all much more informed than in years past.  Forty
years ago if your local trusted dealer told you to go with the Practica,
Miranda, Exacta, Minolta, Pentacon, or whatever you might go with the dealer
as you didn't know any better.

Don
don.dory@gmail.com


On 6/23/06, mehrdad <msadat@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> don how is this different when it was only film?
>
> we had a lot more companies, they all thrived and prospered as we did
> with choice
>
> On 6/23/06, Don Dory <don.dory@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Gene,
> > That is the story throughout most of the world.  Conjecture on my part
> is
> > that Nikon and Canon especially have reached critical mass for DSLR's.
> > Meaning that a true amateur might end up with a Pentax, Olympus, of
> Minolta;
> > but anyone who has done research and wants to fit in(notice the logical
> > argument) would buy anything but Canon or Nikon. Exception to this rule
> > would be the large number of Pentax lovers who will buy the brand
> because of
> > lens compatibility, price, size, and feature set.
> >
> > So, unless the Alpha and the Olympus new models truly walk on water and
> take
> > pictures of Aliens and Angeline J's new baby then they will suffer the
> fate
> > of the Olympus and Minolta SLR's which is abandonment and
> discontinuation.
> > Even the Japanese companies will no longer continue a line that loses
> money
> > in perpetuity.
> >
> > On the other hand Canon especially and Nikon as well can not build their
> > models fast enough.
> >
> > Don
> > don.dory@gmail.com
> >
> >
> > On 6/23/06, Grduprey@aol.com <Grduprey@aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 6/21/2006 5:03:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
> > > bdcolen@comcast.net writes:
> > > Boy, is that the truth. The B mode is nice to have for macro work, or
> > > perhaps for formal portraiture. But the A, real-time live view is what
> > > makes the E330 special. So all the Panisonic really has is a truly
> crappy
> > > viewfinder, analogue controls, and a 'Leica' lens? No wonder Olympus
> was
> > > willing to license the technology to them. ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > The really sad thing is our local Oly dealer can't give them
> away.  But
> > > the
> > > D200's and 30D's are flying off the shelves.
> > >
> > > Gene
> > >
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> --
> -------------------------------------
> regards, mehrdad
>
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