Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/17

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Subject: [Leica] odd problem with Epson 2400 and 4800
From: don.dory at (Don Dory)
Date: Sat Jun 17 18:05:32 2006
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Well, I've been accused of not listening very well so I printed it on my
Epson R800.  I don't see the defects that your image printed.  When I turned
off color management it went really red and in profoto RGB it went 3 or 4
points redder than using your color space.

What I do see is evidence of too much JPEG compression and or working a lot
in an 8 bit color space.  That may not be what you did, but that is what it
looks like.

Frontiers do a whole lot of color management behind the scenes on the way to
the lasers.  In fact, they have a whole seperate computer that manipulates
the image data to make low res images from silly consumers look good.  So I
suspect the Frontier worked out the posterization issues and produced a good


On 6/17/06, Brian Reid <> wrote:
> Last week I posted a portrait of Joyce and Otto here. Joyce wanted a print
> of it, so I went to print it on my Epson R2400, and the print was unusable.
> Big areas of her eye and cheek looked like they had huge amounts of rouge
> spread on them--blobs of solid color. I printed it on Hahnemuehle Photo Rag
> smooth
> I took the print and the image file into Keeble and Shuchat and asked for
> their help. The chap was pretty scornful ("it looks like this had a JPEG
> original; no wonder you can't get a good print") but, scornful or not, he
> did take the time to help me. He printed it on their Epson R4800 on Epson
> Premium Luster paper and got more or less the same results, though not 
> quite
> so pronounced.
> I left Keeble and Shuchat and went to the Long's Drug nearby, and put the
> same CD into the Long's kiosk, and printed an 8x10 on their Fuji Frontier.
> An excellent print, showing none of the artifacts that had ruined the Epson
> print. So I know that it /can/ be printed, even if it's not a perfect
> negative.
> Here's the image:
> Here's a low-res scan of what it looks like printed on my R2400:
> It's a close-up from the original image, enlarged to emphasize the
> problem.
> If you have a good inkjet printer that is NOT an Epson, would you be
> willing to print this image and tell me if the print has the same defect on
> your printer?
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