Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/06/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]so true. we ended up with all viking and a 48-inch subzero because the marginal cost over the standard appliances was a small part of the reno. that being said, the subzero has needed several visits (ice-maker, door handles), the front of the viking range has fallen off and the viking stove's heat regulator gave out, which caused the oven to bring itself to such a prodigious temperature that both glass panels burst. the fisher-and-paykel dishdrawer ($2,000) was so corroded and decrepit that we had to throw it out after 5 years. when i told the repairman that my folks had the same kenmore washer the entire time i lived at home, he laughed indulgently. it was as if i had asked why people didn't live to be 969 years old anymore. however, with the exception of the new zealand luxury dishwasher, i do expect viking and subzero parts and repairmen to be available as long as i can pay for them. -rei On Jun14 16:10, Adam Bridge wrote: > What planet do YOU live on - I'll bet the APPLIANCES ran $20K, the > counter tops (with installation $10K unless they used a marble in blue > so it becomes $20K), and the cabinets, if they're good, another $20K. > > Yes, we're about to remodel our kitchen -- any day now -- good thing > I'm still not eating! > > Adam > > On 6/14/06, B. D. Colen <bdcolen@comcast.net> wrote: > >Ahhhhh...$75K...:-) > > > > > >On 6/14/06 2:29 PM, "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net> wrote: > > > >> Well, I didn't include the cost of the ten-foot bump out on the > >> house, or the new marble center island, etc, etc. etc... > >> > >>> Leica-like kitchen for only $15-20K? That sounds like resurfaced > >cabinets, a > >>> couple appliances and some new linoleum. It's not at all unusual these > >days > >>> to spend $50K on a kitchen - not that I ever have, mind you. > >>> > >>> > >>> On 6/14/06 2:16 PM, "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Don - This is not a land I inhabit routinely, but I'm sure it's > >>>> still possible to buy consumer goods of exceptional quality if you > >>>> are willing to pay the price. The cost of high-end goods isn't > >>>> exclusively in their gloss and prestige. I have friends who recently > >>>> remodelled their kitchen to the tune of about $15-20K and the gear > >>>> they bought not only looks good but seems to be built like a tank. > >>>> > >>>> You have to get used to the idea, though, of spending $3-4K or more > >>>> for a stove, appreciate and enjoy the features and quality of the > >>>> equipment, and be really thinking long term. > >>>> > >>>> To get back to cameras, why buy a DSLR when, when you and get a > >>>> high-quality advanced consumer camera for less, or why buy the > >>>> advanced consumer camera when you can buy a good point and shoot for > >>>> less? > >>>> > >>>> The answer is the same for any tool. The more expensive ones will do > >>>> things the cheaper ones can't, have better build quality, be more > >>>> reliable, and, maybe, just maybe, also be a joy to own. > >>>> > >>>> Just where the value/price ratio is optimized is a very individual > >>>> choice, he said, stepping down off his soap box. :-) > >>>> > >>>> B.T.W. my friends are enthusiastic cooks. I'm sure their Leica-like > >>>> kitchen will give them enormous pleasure for a very long time. > >>>> > >>>>> Richard, > >>>>> At least when you bought your machines you had the option of > >purchasing a > >>>>> well designed and engineered machine. As retailers look to limit > >stock to > >>>>> the 100/10000 top turning SKU's any item that doesn't turn > >>>>> inventory > >will > >>>>> not be reordered. Price becomes an issue as fewer people can > >descriminate > >>>>> what is quality and what is not so let price rule. > >>>>> > >>>>> Consumerism plays a part here as well. Rather than have a few very > >nice > >>>>> things, most would rather have a whole bunch of shiny junk just ot > >say > >>>>> that > >>>>> they have one of everything. > >>>>> > >>>>> B.D. briefly touched on this when commenting on the relative price > >of a > >>>>> proposed dM and a D30 or the Oly line. Why would someone pay 5K > >>>>> for > >a box > >>>>> that does what a 1.4K box does? It is for the same reason that I > >won't > >>>>> buy > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> (snip) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Leica Users Group. > >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Rei Shinozuka shino@panix.com Ridgewood, New Jersey