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Subject: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph, and HCB -goldenmean
From: walt at waltjohnson.com (Walt Johnson)
Date: Tue Apr 11 19:48:17 2006
References: <000501c65dd9$4f268a10$656c0e44@newukolbqveo9i>

You are absolutely right.

Walt

Jeffery Smith wrote:

>I apologize for yaking about art without being an art critic, and I didn't
>imply that anyone who divided a frame into thirds etc. was a little Henri.
>BD made it clear that he thought my initial observations about the
>documentary were laughable. I stand corrected. But your condenscending
>sarcasm is over the edge, I think. 
>
>Jeffery Smith
>New Orleans, LA
>http://www.400tx.com
>
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>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Walt
>Johnson
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:18 PM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph,and HCB
>-goldenmean
>
>
>I'm all for aesthetics but that has little or nothing to do with 
>"formulas". If it were as easy as dividing the frame up into 3rds or 5 
>ninths or whatever, then we could all be little Henris .     :-P
>
>Besides, it is better to let your work do the talking for you.....Yaking 
>about art is for art critics and dabblers, making it is for us Leica 
>guys. (and girls) :-*
>
>Walt
>
>p.s I've never divided up your 9th ward photos into math formulas but 
>think they are very good anyway.
>
>Jeffery Smith wrote:
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>>This is what happens when one tries to talk about photography on the 
>>LUG. Okay, let's talk gear! How about 'dem Olympus lenses!!!
>>
>>Jeffery Smith
>>New Orleans, LA
>>http://www.400tx.com
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
>>Walt Johnson
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:52 PM
>>To: Leica Users Group
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph,and HCB 
>>-goldenmean
>>
>>
>>No. No, No..I'm  familiar with all the non sequiturs...Show me a
>>photograph.... >:o >:o >:o :-P One you've taken which debunks Henri's 
>>secrets.
>>
>>Jeffery Smith wrote:
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>>>Okay, one other tidbit is that HCB also preferred using the entire
>>>24x36 frame even thought it is an "off" size compared to most other 
>>>frames. He didn't want the images cropped (and has the black edge of 
>>>the film showing in some of his books of prints). The 2x3 ratio fits 
>>>the golden mean format better than 4x5, etc.
>>>
>>>Jeffery Smith
>>>New Orleans, LA
>>>http://www.400tx.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>>Walt Johnson
>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:21 PM
>>>To: Leica Users Group
>>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph, and HCB 
>>>-goldenmean
>>>
>>>
>>>Show me! >:o
>>>
>>>Jeffery Smith wrote:
>>>
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>>>>Perhaps because I've discovered the secret of his framing? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Jeffery Smith
>>>>New Orleans, LA
>>>>http://www.400tx.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>>>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>B. D. Colen
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:02 PM
>>>>To: Leica Users Group
>>>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph, and 
>>>>HCB
>>>>-golden mean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Fascinating to see, Jeffery, but why do I think that HCB  is sitting 
>>>>his his studio in the sky, enjoying a snifter of heavenly cognac, 
>>>>laughing his ass off?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 4/11/06 7:54 PM, "Jeffery Smith" <jsmith342@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
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>>>>>Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>>In looking at many of HCB's photos in the documentary, I detected
>>>>>that HCB seemed to be looking for angles (one part of the documentary 
>>>>>had HCB talking constantly of "geometry"). The placement of subjects 
>>>>>seemed to be invariably on one side of an angle as I have collected
>>>>>here:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.400tx.com/HCB.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Even if these images aren't compellingly "golden mean" (I couldn't
>>>>>find little thumbnails of all of the examples they showed in the 
>>>>>film), HCB almost never places his subjects in the center of the 
>>>>>frame, and when he doesn't have an obvious diagonal, he often has a 
>>>>>rule of thirds composition.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jeffery Smith
>>>>>New Orleans, LA
>>>>>http://www.400tx.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org
>>>>>[mailto:lug-bounces+jsmith342=cox.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>bob palmieri
>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 9:49 PM
>>>>>To: lug@leica-users.org
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Why we photograph, artists who photograph, and
>>>>>HCB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Jeffrey & Tina -
>>>>>
>>>>>I know from the Golden Section, but I don't really understand how to
>>>>>use it in an organic way in snapping. Can you show me how it applies 
>>>>>to, perhaps, some of HCB's pictures?
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob Palmieri
>>>>>
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