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Subject: [Leica] enough with Olympus DSLR postings PLEASE
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Wed Mar 22 19:31:57 2006
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On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:10:14 -0500 "Don Dory" <don.dory@gmail.com> wrote:
"B.D.
"I did not say that photography was in trouble, I said the business was in
"trouble.  As people who know what a camera should be able to do leave the
"business and are replaced on the retail side by some loser who may or may
"not be able to run the register then the knowledge base will be what is
"found on the net.  Have you read the other discussion groups?
"
"On the manufacturing side, we are seeing the large electronics firms move 
in
"both because they would like to expand into a temporarily high margin
"business and also it is a place to use spare manufacturing capacity.  These
"big conglomerates understand cameras like IBM understands PC's, ot that's
"right, they sold the business.
"
"Don
"don.dory@gmail.com
"
"
"On 3/22/06, B. D. Colen <bdcolen@comcast.net> wrote:
">
"> Yup, the business is changing. And I would hazard a guess that more 
people
"> today are actually carrying around cameras all the time than did a decade
"> ago. Some of those cameras are embedded in cell phones, but those people
"> are thinking about images- and those cameras are getting better.
">
"> Times change; economic configurations change; art forms change.
">
"> By the way, most buggy whip manufacturers went out of business when cars
"> came in. And most auto manufacturers are long gone as well. You may 
bemoan
"> their loss, but more people are driving than ever before. Which may or 
may
"> not be good.
">
"> Bottom line? If you love film, use it. But all of this digital is
"> destroying photography is pretty silly.
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"> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:00:40 -0500 "Don Dory" <don.dory@gmail.com> wrote:
"> "B.D.,
"> "I beg to differ.  On the manufacturing side we have lost Kyocera, 
Konica,
"> "Minolta.  If sales don't pick up we will lose Olympus and NIkon within
"> three
"> "years: Olympus after a major sale and pirating Nikon's coop dollars
"> managed
"> "a whopping 11% market share in the U.S market.  If Nikon doesn't start
"> "shipping huge quantities of D200's really soon they will be looking
"> fondly
"> "on the stepper business.  Kodak will probably be out of the camera
"> business
"> "in less time based on the amount of space they gave cameras at PMA.
"> "
"> "On the retail side, the small players are going away as in closed doors
"> with
"> "no one interested in the business.  For photography related purchases we
"> "will soon be at Wal-Mart, Ritz, B&H, the local big box electronics 
store,
"> "and a few regional chains. K&S, Samy's, Bergen, and a few others will
"> "survive at least for this generation.  Without a place to promote
"> "photography, we will end up with camera phones as the standard 
equipment.
"> "
"> "Strong words, sure; but you were not talking to the folks in the photo
"> "business in Florida.  An indication of how things are going is the
"> serious
"> "talk of folding PMA into CES.
"> "


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