Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]There's no question in my mind that "these over-sized, over-weight, over-automated, computers that pass for cameras these days" take incredible photos. They certainly do, and in many situations far better than a film camera would. I just don't want to carry one and it's accessories around. The future is digital. No question. I just am not ready to partake yet - at least not at the Canon 20D, 30D, 5D level. B.D. Colen wrote: >I do have to laugh, Richard, reading your description of "these over-sized, >over-weight, over-automated, computers that pass for cameras these days." >:-) When I read that I am reminded of what everyone said about 35 mm cameras >and film, and their quality, as late as the early 60s; the legions of >newspaper and magazine editors who scoffed at the idea that "those toys" >could produce good images. ;-) > > >On 1/18/06 11:36 AM, "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Right, but, at least for me, buying a first generation digital M >> won't mean buying into an entirely new system and it will be a system >> that I enjoy using. >> >> I seem to be unable to express adequately just how much I dislike >> hauling around these over-sized, over-weight, over-automated, >> computers that pass for cameras these days. >> >> >>> But let's be honest here - when you get the M digital body you are >>> stepping >>> on precisely the same treadmill. By the time it comes out, it will >>> already >>> be last year's technology, if that. The question is whether that >>> technology >>> is good enough for you for the foreseeable future. And that >>>brings us to the >>> question of how real the "digital treadmill" really is. Does one need to >>> continually trade up? I'd suggest again that the 20D produces terrific >>> results, and unless one has a specific problem or need, the >>> introduction of >>> the 30D shouldn't cause 20D owners to lose sleep. Think about how much >>> of >>> this is really just the latest example of the "mine's bigger than yours" >>> phenomenon. What this really reminds me of is the annual >>>introduction of the >>> new car models each fall in the 50s and 60s - God forbid the neighbor >>> has >>> tail fins bigger than yours. ;-) >>> >>> >>> On 1/17/06 8:53 PM, "Richard S. Taylor" <r.s.taylor@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim Laurel wrote: >>>> >>>>> The digital treadmill marches on... Damn, I'm tired of it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Me, too. ...and it's why I'm still shooting film. I can wait this >>>> out. We'll certainly have good digital bodies for our M lenses in a >>>> few years. The digital M is beginning to look like a sure thing and >>>> given the rumors, we may well have a Zeiss-Ikon digital and maybe >>>> even another Epson digital to choose from. >>>> >>>> Besides, >>>> >>>> - I enjoy using my M7 and M3. >>>> >>>> - Competent DSLRs and lenses are all BIG. I hate carrying big >>>> cameras and lenses around. >>>> >>>> - Film is easily processed and digitized. >>>> >>>> - No new camera is going to help improve my ability to see and >>>> produce good prints, my primary interests at the moment. >>>> >>>> - $4,500 spent on a 5D and a couple of Canon lenses today (I almost >>>> did this) is $4,500 less I'll have to spend on a digital M two years >>>> from now. >>>> >>>> I just picked up a used 28mm Summicron. It'll make a great "36mm" >>>> lens on my digital M. >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> Dick >>>> Boston MA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 17, 2006, at 8:59 AM, Richard S. Taylor wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Some of you might be interested in this: >>>>>> >>>>>> Rumours: Canon EOS 30D to be announced end of February? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.photoscala.com/node/view/1204 >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a site my photo processor told me about last week and I've >>>>>> just started to check into from time to time. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Dick >>>>>> Boston MA >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Leica Users Group. >See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Regards, Dick Boston MA