Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/01/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I love it - "I won't divulge the names of ...publications, editors or clients..." Now that's classic bullshit if ever I've heard it. And you're right - responsible reporting is indeed responsible reporting. And it requires a "correction" when you're egregiously wrong, as you were. On 1/4/06 3:40 PM, "mcyclwritr@comcast.net" <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> wrote: > I knew this discussion would bring B.D. out swinging. > > While I won't divulge the names of otherwise innocent (and generous) > publications or editors and clients, I will say that I've been writing on > editorial and advertising deadline since 1969. But, with respect to > responsible reporting, time in the field means little, as you know. > Responsible reporting is responsible reporting whether you've been out of > J-school for nearly 40 years or nearly 40 days. > > -Chris Lawson > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@comcast.net> >> And you were a reporter where? And are an expert in reporting and >> journalistic standards based on what? And have written precisely how many >> stories on deadline? Just wondering. >> >> >> On 1/4/06 1:54 PM, "mcyclwritr@comcast.net" <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> This exactly the sort of NYT apologist retort I anticipated. That's why >>> my >>> original post included a whiff of Basic Reporting 101, which, >>> predictably, >>> is >>> missing from your reply. >>> >>> How do you know what the "mining company told family members and others?" >>> Was >>> it broadcast on TV? Did you see actual, talking-head footage? Did that >>> talking >>> head say to the effect of "It has been confirmed that rescuers have >>> reached >>> 12 >>> surviving miners?" If so, I defer to you. I didn't see it. Further, who >>> is a >>> "mining company?" How can a company speak? It speaks through a spokesman. >>> Who >>> is that person? What, exactly, did he say? Report it, wrapped it in >>> quotation >>> marks. >>> >>> And that's just part of why this particular misreporting debacle is so >>> embarrassing. Nobody from the wire service or any other reporting agency >>> took >>> the time CONFIRM a damn thing. Not one damn thing. See the difference? >>> Spreading rumors and miscommunication versus factual, substantiated >>> reporting. >>> >>> Don't settle for sloppy reporting. Demand facts. Get information from >>> numerous >>> sources, whether you're the reporter or the reader. >>> >>> -Chris Lawson >>> >>> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >>> From: Matt Powell <wooderson@gmail.com> >>>> On 1/4/06, mcyclwritr@comcast.net <mcyclwritr@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> Not to klck the Gray Lady while she's down, but I heard that today's >>>>> NYT >>>>> front >>>> page >trumpeted 12 survivors from the West Virginia mine tragedy. Can >>>> you >>>> say >>>> "scoop >hungry?" "Unsubstantiated?" "Reckless?" >>>> >>>> That's what the mining company told family members and others >>>> gathered. Hardly the reporter's fault that he passed along what was >>>> being stated on the scene. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> MP >>>> wooderson@gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information