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Subject: [Leica] TidBits: Digital Better than Film
From: bdcolen at comcast.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Tue Dec 13 14:16:12 2005

I don't know about digital v. film, Rei - but I wouldn't call those images
"painterly" - I'd call them grotesque. They bear no relation to reality, and
I find the multiple planes of focus - and out of focus areas - seriously
disturbing. :-)

B. D.


On 12/13/05 1:05 PM, "Rei Shinozuka" <shino@panix.com> wrote:

> the article was almost completely geared to post-processing the
> image with photoshop, correcting perspective, selectively changing
> contrast and color saturation, and so on.  nothing you couldn't do
> with scanned film.
> 
> the writer did state that maximial depth of field was his goal:
> 
>   When everything is sharp within a photograph, photographic
>   compositions open up. People don't just look at my pictures,
>   they look inside them, combing them for detail - and they find
>   it, because I have controlled the details' contrast.
> 
> to liberally summarize, the writer's aesthetic is a painterly one;
> all objects of interest should be bright and focused, all others
> unfocused, darkened, reduced in contrast and color saturation.
> 
> his results look to me to be half-way between oil paintings and
> photographs:
> 
> http://www.tidbits.com/resources/809/GrossAbattoirFlowers.jpg
> 
> Hence, the argument is not really not digital versus film
> at all, but one of aesthetics and techniques which utilize a
> digital workflow.
> 
> -rei
> 
> On Dec13 09:53, Luis Miguel Casta?eda wrote:
>> On 13/12/2005, at 8:40, Adam Bridge wrote:
>> 
>>> Here's a link to an essay demonstrating why digital is better than
>>> film.
>> 
>> using that way you can demonstrate anything, just populate a sheet
>> with techy gibberish and redefine better to suit your goals.
>> 
>> My conclusion:
>> a) You're nobody without a digital camera, they are the holy grail
>> and the philosopher's stone combined.
>> b) Don't matter how crap you do it even representing it in your brain
>> tissue, you can fix it later.
>> c) [ and most important ] buy photoshop
>> d) buy photoshop now, just in case that c) conclussion wasn't clear
>> enough.
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> Now seriously: this article has interesting points, but... aren't we
>> bored to death of those endless arguments in both ways? :)
>> 
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