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Subject: [Leica] Jeffery is OK/ answering JB
From: s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)
Date: Wed Aug 31 16:46:06 2005
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G points especially since they had more then 2 days of advance warning
jes

> John,
> I  beg to contradict you, that was not a snide remark, far from it. I 
> have friends and colleagues  out there too, mostly evacuated from the 
> GofM rigs by chopper.
> If I hadn't been in hospital last week I might even have been out doing 
> some bore-hole logging on one of them.
> 
> The news today showed the first military trucks taking people out of the 
> superdome, I reckon about 20  people per truck at the most..
> There are Marine bases within hours of the area, it would be better news 
> if THEY were there with more appropriate equipment!!
> Those 6x6 trucks can only wade to a max. of about 4 to 5 feet, wheeled 
> vehicles are at an enormous disadvantage anyway when there is debris 
> under water.
> The smaller trucks they showed have even less wading capacity, the big 
> APCs are fully amphibious and not limted to roads.
> 
> I always find it absolutely sickening that the military forces around 
> the world , which have the most advanced rescue and recovery equipment, 
> are always the last to get to a disaster area.
> If my country (the UK) can get an ROV to rescue a few Russian 
> submariners within 12 hours then how come other equipment can't be 
> deployed in a disaster area just as fast.
> The Coast Guard / Lifeboat service / Helicopter Medics are always there 
> days before - This is not a US problem this is global,
> 
> This catastrophe is the worst thing I've seen since the Asian Tsunami, 
> and the slowest total reaction time of the people who have the right 
> equipment, a standard chopper can only carry
> about 10 people at the most, with fallen masts and wires all over the 
> place they can't even land, and winching people up is so time consuming 
> that fuel becomes a problem on every operation.
> APCs,ARVs (Armoured Recovery Vehicles), Landing Craft, Air Cushion 
> Vehicles (Hovercraft) are the stuff to get people out.
> Military deployment is always fast - why can't they be just as fast here.
> 
> Douglas
> 
> 
> John Black wrote:
> 
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Thank the deity of your choice for that.
>>>Why the F### can't the US Marines get their amphibious personnel
>>>carriers in there to get people out?
>>>They manage to get jnto other peoples countries fast enough without
>>>being asked.
>>>Douglas
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>
>>Why can't we just enjoy good news without the snide political remarks
>>Douglas...
>>
>>JB
>>
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