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Subject: [Leica] Um, how do you dilute?
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Tue Jun 21 18:28:12 2005
References: <42B785FE.9020203@planet.nl> <BEDCEEDA.17262%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I think that this is more of a specific film issue.  Neopan 400 looks
best at 1:3 whereas I am getting fabulous results from Tri-X at 1:2. 
In Xtol diluted Tri-X acts almost as if I was using a compensating
develper, heavy overexposure is useable and 1.5 stops under is also
reasonable in the shadows.

And for me, Neopan 1600 needs an exact time in the developer to turn
out properly.

So, start with the times in the Massive D chart but don't shoot
anything important to you until you have tested out the whole
procedure under the conditions that exist in your darkroom.  Water
matters, filling procedures matter, pre-wetting may or may not matter.
 You have to try them all out to be sure.

Don
don.dory@gmail.com

On 6/21/05, Mark Rabiner <mark@rabinergroup.com> wrote:
> On 6/20/05 8:14 PM, "Nathan Wajsman" <nathan.wajsman@planet.nl> typed:
> 
> > Kodak recommends using at least 100ml of XTOL for each roll of film. If
> > your tank needs 250ml of liquid, then use 125ml stock XTOL and 125ml 
> > water.
> >
> > The 100ml/roll rule can be safely ignored up to a point; when I was
> > developing in my Jobo, I used the 1+3 dilution for XTOL. In a 500ml tank
> > holding 2 rolls of film, this meant 125ml XTOL and 375ml water, so that
> > there was only 62.5ml of XTOL per roll. It worked fine.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> I'll second that!
> 
> Xtol diluted much less than 1:3, even 1:2 makes for much less of a miracle
> formula.
> 
> But I have to say that using it straight is a very very unfortunate choice
> as using just about any such solvent film developer straight is.
> 
> 
> Mark Rabiner
> Photography
> Portland Oregon
> http://rabinergroup.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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In reply to: Message from nathan.wajsman at planet.nl (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] Um, how do you dilute?)
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