Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/05/01

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Subject: [Leica] M4-P + Winder M4-2
From: jbcollier at shaw.ca (John Collier)
Date: Sun May 1 07:51:29 2005
References: <1fc.b3cbd8.2fa63fad@aol.com>

Boy I wish that were true.

Unfortunately the M was never designed, nor redesigned properly, for a 
winder/motor. As long as you NEVER NEVER use the winder with a speed 
lower than the flash sync you will be OK.

Yes the wind mechanism is supposed to be locked out until the shutter 
completes its cycle but often it does not. Then the camera jams. Don't 
fool yourself, this does damage the shutter mech and can eventually 
toast it completely. My repair chap begged me with his voice breaking 
not to use a winder/motor.

I switched to Tom's rapidwinders where my brain does the necessary 
thinking to prevent jams.

BTW, if your Winder M is noisy go here:

http://nemeng.com/leica/011b.shtml

John Collier

On 1-May-05, at 8:20 AM, Grduprey@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 4/30/2005 11:53:55 PM Central Daylight Time,
> tgif@mbi.nifty.com writes:
>> There is one concern, though. It was one evening I was shooting with
>> slow speeds like 1/8 and 1/15, I accidentally released my finger from
>> the shutter button while the shutter was still in operation. Winder 
>> made
>> a big *bump* noise at first and did not wind until I pressed and
>> released the button again.
>
> More than likely, you just got it jammed and whe you pressed the 
> release you
> cleared the jam up. I would just keep on shooting if it is now working
> correctly.  Both units are pretty robust and can take this type of a 
> jam with no
> damage to either unit.


Replies: Reply from bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen) ([Leica] PAW - lens experiment)
Reply from tgif at mbi.nifty.com (Tom Kumagai) ([Leica] M4-P + Winder M4-2)
In reply to: Message from Grduprey at aol.com (Grduprey@aol.com) ([Leica] M4-P + Winder M4-2)