Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/04/06

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Subject: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
From: jls at runbox.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Wed Apr 6 15:29:09 2005

Yikes, I hit a raw nerve. I was just complimenting the quality of a
camera as being what I think is the best ever made. I didn't mean to
denigrate all earlier cameras or say that it took better pictures than
any other.

Am I on the RUG? ;-)

Jeffery Smith
New Orleans, LA
http://www.400tx.com



-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of B. D.
Colen
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 3:44 PM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase

That's fine, and may well be true. But it hardly turns all Leicas before
it to chopped chicken liver. Would HCB have done better work with an MP?
Would Mary Ellen Mark do better work with an MP? Would Ted Grant do
better work with an MP? Would Jeffery Smith? Of course not. There is
always something "far more solid," and far more expensive out there. But
that doesn't make it better in real world terms. If the M6 was built
like a Bessa, then buying an MP would make a great deal of sense. But
given that an M6 will outlive any of the current owner's of M6s, the MP
is reduced, or elevated, to neck jewelry status - an expensive toy for
rich aficionados who believe that only if they possess the cr?me de la
cr?me can they hold their heads up. It is, in other words, a waste of
money. If someone's got the money, and wants to waste it, more power to
them. But deifying the MP the way some do strikes me as quite silly.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Jeffery Smith
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:38 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase


After having handled the MP, it is hard to handle anything else. It
feels 
like it was carved from a billet of steel. People compare it to the
build 
quality of the M3, but it seems far more "solid" and smoother to me. I 
cannot imagine an RF being made any better than the new MP.

Jeffery


At 03:16 PM 4/6/2005, you wrote:
>Hi Bob,
>
>I'm agree if somebody is looking for a M6 or M6TTL, but IMO once you 
>have tried a MP the VF is really much more better than the M6 Saludos 
>desde Barcelona Luis
>-----Mensaje original-----
>De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org]En nombre
de
>B. D. Colen
>Enviado el: miercoles, 06 de abril de 2005 0:17
>Para: 'Leica Users Group'
>Asunto: RE: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
>
>What ever you say, Gene, but here are the prices of the last  M6s and 
>M6TTL to sell on Ebay - $1380 for a .85 TTL
>$1035 for M6 .72
>$1250 M6 in box
>$1499 WITH WINDER M
>$1175 for Chrome M6 .72
>$1211 for a TTL
>$985 for a chrome M6 with one ding
>$1154 for .85 TTL
>And on March 31 an auction ended with only $1125 being bid for a mint
>.85 TTL that failed to meet the reserve.
>
>The prices have dropped through the floor. Now's the time, before Leica

>goes belly up, to buy an M6. :-)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of

>grduprey@aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 4:55 PM
>To: lug@leica-users.org
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
>
>
>Not from what I have seen, he is just about right.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: B. D. Colen <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
>To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug@leica-users.org>
>Sent: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 09:45:54 -0400
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
>
>
>Boy, Feli - you haven't priced M6s recently - you're as much as $250
>high....;-)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of

>Feli
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:19 AM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M3 purchase
>
>
>Used with meter:
>M6 or M6TTL     $1300-1500
>MP (demo)   $2300
>
>Used no meter:
>M4 $1000-1500 (add $250 for a CLA)
>M2 $  800-1400 (add $250 for a CLA)
>
>New:
>MP (black)
>
>If I could only have one lens it would be a 35.
>
>
>feli
>
>
>On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Michael J Herring wrote:
> > OK, Gents. What would you consider a fair price and which body would

> > you purchase yourselves? Thanks for the responses,
> > Mike
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