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Subject: [Leica] Need help pricing sale of photograph
From: bonvini at optonline.net (Jay)
Date: Fri Apr 1 12:44:31 2005

Good advice - thanks Don

Jay Ignaszewski
203-372-5900 home
917-519-1919 cell
bonvini@optonline.net 

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bonvini=optonline.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bonvini=optonline.net@leica-users.org]On Behalf Of
Don Dory
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 3:23 PM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: RE: [Leica] Need help pricing sale of photograph


Jay,
This comes up all the time.  If you can load the LTM camera then just
get a few Cosina lenses.  The 21 F4 and the 15 F4.5 are highly rated,
don't cost a lot, and you don't really need to focus so shooting is a
blast compared to using an SLR at this field of view.  If you go the
Cosina route you will have spent less money than buying all but the most
abused M mount camera.

Daniel Ridings has a lot of photo's posted using the 21.  If you poke
around a little you will find quite a few where the 15 is used.

Even better, sell the 28 and purchase the lenses in the focal lengths
you like.

For pricing see cameraquest.com or photovillage.com.

Don
dorysrus@mindspring.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf
Of Jay
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:32 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Need help pricing sale of photograph

Okay, sports fans.
I just recently joined the LUG. Have been watching and participating
with
the discussions. Am enjoying.

The reason I joined is that I was recently given a Leica, an old screw
mount
rangefinder as well as some lenses. It was my father-in-law's when he
was
alive, he gave it to his daughter when he passed away. My wife when we
got
married gave it to me as she knew how much I enjoyed photography.
Up to that point I was using a Canon F1 (old style) with a full
complement
of lenses, had been shooting with it for over 25 years. The standard
lens I
use is the 17mm, I just love the look of the images captured with this
lens.
I also shoot with a Contax RTS with a macro 55, A minilux Leica point
and
shoot (love this camera).
In the old days, I used 4x5 and 8x10 view cameras - that was a long time
ago.

I seriously enjoy shooting with the rangefinder - the images are
startlingly
sharp.

The leica - #535150 has a Summitar 5cm lens on it. Along with a Canon
Serenar 85mm/f2 and a Canon Serenar 135mm/f4, both screw mounts.
Has the external finder on top that adjusts for different focal lengths
Also a Elmarit f2.8/28 bayonet mount lens. Obviously for a different
camera
body.

Now my questions:
Since I enjoy shooting wide angle most if not all of the time, should I
be
trading the older body and its lenses in for a newer body that would
take
advantage of the bayonet 28mm? And if so, which model should I be
looking
for?
As usual, since I am an adjunct professor (teach Film and Video
Production),
price is an issue.

Jay
bonvini@optonline.net

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bonvini=optonline.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bonvini=optonline.net@leica-users.org]On Behalf Of
Nathan Wajsman
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:57 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Need help pricing sale of photograph


Hi Steve,

There are many variables in such a calculation, but to give you an idea,
I logged into Alamy (of which I am a member), picked an image at random
and did some calculations for licensing an image for use in a travel
advertising campaign in a UK national newspaper with a circulation of
100,000.

A couple of examples:
Image size 1/2 page, 10 inserts during 1 month, inside placement:
1886.18 EUR
Same thing but with 1 insert: 410.04 EUR
Same thing but 1 full page: 2263.41 EUR (10 inserts) / 492.05 EUR (1
insert)

The variables that determine the price at Alamy are:
-image size
-image use
-kind of media (e.g. national vs. local paper)
-print run
-placement (cover, inside cover, back cover, inside)
-number of inserts
-duration of campaign
-territory/country
-industry

If you can give me some assumptions about these parameters, I will be
happy to calculate a price for you. I think Alamy is a good guideline
for the UK market. The prices are in EUR because that is the currency I
chose when I signed up with them.

Nathan



Steve Unsworth wrote:
> Can anyone help me? I've been approached by someone wanting to buy one
> of my photographs for use in a newspaper advertising campaign by a
> travel company.
>
> The problem is I don't have a clue of what to ask for the image. They
> want to either buy the photograph outright for multiple future use
> (which I'm not very happy about doing), or buy it for a single usage
in
> the campaign.
>
> Can anyone give me an idea of how to price this in the UK. I expect
the
> final price will depend on whether it's a national campaign, or just
in
> the local press, so I'd really appreciate some kind of ball park
figure
> to go back with.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Steve
>
>
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--
Nathan Wajsman
Almere, The Netherlands

General photography: http://www.nathanfoto.com
Seville photography: http://www.fotosevilla.com
Stock photography: http://www.alamy.com/search-results.asp?qt=wajsman
http://myloupe.com/home/found_photographer.php?photographer=507
Prints for sale: http://www.photodeluge.com


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