[Leica] Seeking a new 50

[scott at adrenaline.com (Scott McLoughlin)]

How closely do these LTM lenses focus?  I generally find the difference
between 1 and .7 meters kind of significant. 

Scott

B. D. Colen wrote:

>Keep in mind, Don, as with the Canon LTM which you say "as a wonderful
>look if you do not require ultimate sharpness at 1.4," the pre-ASPH
>Summiluxes hardly provide "ultimate sharpness at 1.4."
>
>B. D.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
>Don Dory
>Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:22 AM
>To: 'Leica Users Group'
>Subject: RE: [Leica] Seeking a new 50
>
>
>Scott,
>The middle Summilux is a widely loved lens for it's sharp center and
>beautiful falling off to the edges; the transition to oof is quite
>marvelous.
>
>The Dual Range Summicron will give you results to die for as long as do
>not shot in situations that will give you heavy veiling glare.  Sharp
>images with a transition to oof that is marvelous.
>
>The latest Elmar will give you results similar to the 45, only with more
>detail and crisper edges to the edge of the frame.
>
>If you are experimental, the LTM 50 F1.4 Nikkor will give you what you
>want, look at many of Bill Clough's images from last years PAW.  Also,
>the 50mm Canon LTM 1.4 has a wonderful look if you do not require
>ultimate sharpness at 1.4.
>
>My preference is the new 50 ASPH, sharp, virtually flare free, wonderful
>transition to oof, virtually unobtainable.
>
>My next choice would be the DR Summicron, then the new 50 Elmar.
>
>One of the things with older Leica glass is that you can still buy and
>sell with little loss in the transaction, as long as you don't buy
>retail and sell wholesale.
>
>Don
>dorysrus@mindspring.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org
>[mailto:lug-bounces+dorysrus=mindspring.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf
>Of Scott McLoughlin
>Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:55 AM
>To: Leica Users Group
>Subject: [Leica] Seeking a new 50
>
>Subject lines says it all. I currently own the CV 50/2.5 and 50/1.5. I 
>had high hopes for the 50 Color Skopar, but use the 50 Nokton most of 
>the time.
>
>But neighter really float my boat. The Nokton comes close. Hanging 
>around f5.6 or so, I get lovely fine detail. Shot several animal pics at
>
>the zoo which really brought this to my attention.  But bokeh is a 
>problem with specular highlights, some wiriness and the like.
>
>But I'm seeking out a different "look."  The closest in my current kit 
>is the Nikon 45/2.8P. I find this a lovely lens. Plenty of detail, but 
>no harshness. A kind of smoothness mixed in with the detail. Divine shot
>
>at close to medium focus distance.  Bokeh to die for, and yes, bokeh is 
>important to me in a 50mm FL lense. I'd say that it has a "refined"
>look.
>
>I guess my M-mount candidates are the current Summicron, the pre-ASPH 
>Summilux and the Elmar-M.
>
>The Elmar-M is a tessar based design like my Nikon 45P, so wonder if 
>that is what I'm looking for. It's a little slow, but then I can always 
>shoot HP5 at EI 800, or go out and buy a really fast 35 Lux :-)
>
>The Summicron is the summicron. I read that close-up performance is 
>excellent. Is this a "do no wrong" 50mm legendary lens.
>
>And then the Lux. Don't know much about this one. Most discussions talk 
>about it's low-light performance, but I do hear mention of a beloved 
>"look."  I'd like to learn more about this one.
>
>For background, I shoot B&W pretty much exclusively. Family, friends and
>
>hobbyist documentary and artsy pics. I rarely shoot landscape stuff 
>(just vacations). I scan film and print with an MIS ink set outfitted 
>Epson printer.
>
>Appreciate any help.
>
>Scott
>
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