Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/02/19

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Subject: [Leica] Another FLUGing reason to hate Canon.
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Sat Feb 19 09:30:30 2005

Don't know where you live, or to whom you sell, Tarek, but even many -
if not most -small American newspapers are or have converted to digital.
And as to saying that editors just want the image, they don't care with
what it's shot...on what planet? Some demand 2 1/4; some demand film;
some demand digital, and on and on.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Tarek Charara
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 5:56 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Another FLUGing reason to hate Canon.


Hey, you're not alone! Some people are still shooting film and will 
continue doing so. Some pro's are even coming back to film (at least 
for 60% of their work, for the 2 PJs I talked to and who went the 100% 
digital route in the beginning). Others don't feel like going digital 
at all (4 people I know of, but they do have a digital P&S). And those 
are Canon or Nikon shooters NOT Leica users.

As to the "clients asking for digital, or else..." thing, in another 
thread: Now guys, I don't know of any serious client who will hire a 
photographer, because he/she has gone the digital route. It's a matter 
of talent, portfolio, and price (or budget). I have never been asked, 
by any of my clients over the last 25 years, HOW I did my work or with 
WHAT kind of gear. It's the result that counts. I went the digital 
route for part of my work (catalogues in particular), but the clients 
never noticed a difference, not even in the price! (Actually, I charge 
a bit more for digital, because of the extra work involved after the 
shoot)

Magazines? I asked two photoeditors about how they felt about the 
digital vs. film thing in their work. The answer was: we prefer film 
over digital because the photographers aren't there yet. (!!!) They had 
the feeling that the quality of work presented was, except for a few 
cases, inferior to what they where used to. They also said that the 
differences in picture quality (colour, grain, contrast) had vanished 
between photographers, as if everyone was using the same film...

PJs? Hmmm. There is an interesting trend here. I had the chance of 
being interviewed a couple of times last year, by local newspapers, and 
only once (!) the interviewer was accompanied by a photographer (with a 
Canon DS1). The other times it was the interviewer who pulled out his 
digital P&S and made the pictures. A friend of mine, ex-AP war 
photographer who teaches PJ at the CFPJ (the school for journalists) in 
Paris, confirmed this trend. He says that most of his "students" are 
actually journalists sent by their employer, to learn the basics of PJ 
work. Meaning that a few PJs will be out of work in the next couple of 
years, made redundant. And it's not because they didn't go the digital 
route.

All the best!

Tarek



Le 19 f?vr. 2005, ? 06:48, Steve Barbour a ?crit :

> Doug...you and I are still shooting film...let's not stop...


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Replies: Reply from mail at steveunsworth.co.uk (Steve Unsworth) ([Leica] Another FLUGing reason to hate Canon.)
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