Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/01/13

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Subject: [Leica] 20 Discards
From: bdcolen at (B. D. Colen)
Date: Thu Jan 13 17:59:37 2005

All good arguments, Adam. However...:-)...Their feelings about the
church pews and the spiral stairs had nothing to do with art school bias
- they actually liked both quite a bit. Their feeling was that they were
so far removed from everything else in the group of 40, and from what I
shoot, that they really didn't belong in the 20. And that, as Paul
Harvey says, "is the resssst of the story."


B. D.

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of
Adam Bridge
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:07 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] 20 Discards

Okay - I'm going to argue for the removal of image #5 - the baby in the
incubator being viewed. I like the IDEA of this shot a lot but for it to
fit into your current collection it should be crystal clear and the baby
is not. Viewer and subject need to be sharp for this image to be
included. image #6 however is a wonderful image and suffices.

In its stead I would place image #9 - church pews shot from above -
which is a wonderful composition and which appears to make wonderful use
of the camera's full dynamic range.

I also am taken by image #12 (boy laying on concrete bench) although I'm
far less strong about this than I am about the church pew image. I also
like #20 (traffic light in snow).

If I were to replace these two images in your portfolio I would remove
#14 Portrait of Man in black. This just doesn't work for me. I like one
of the discards better. And I would remove #7 Hand hovering over preemie
in incubator because the tiny hand and finger of image #10 is far more

I suspect their very art school credentials provide a bias against the
church pews. It is, after all, static. There are no people. But it is a
WORK of people in a place of devotion, filled with structure and light
and shadow which is, after all, what religions are about.

So those are my alterations and the reasons for them. I todder over to
the corner now and drool in private.


On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:08:21 -0500, B. D. Colen <>
> Okay, a few of you asked for it, and I'm crazy enough to take the 
> risk... Here, once again, are the 20 final selections to be included 
> in a slide show at an Olympus event at the ICP -
> And here are the 20 discards that my son and daughter - both art 
> school-trained photographers - discarded - 
> Did we make any major mistakes? If so...why? :-)
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