Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/01/04
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Dan: I don't think of it as weird, but even if you do, I don't agree that it's surreal. Jim Dan C wrote: > What about the shot of all those children playing, with the big fat man > walking by? That's gotta be called weird! > > -dan c. > > At 01:31 PM 04-01-05 -0500, Jim Hemenway wrote: > >>Calling Sir "Buzz of Belmont"! :-) >> >> >> >>>shape, form, shadow, odd juxtaposition of objects..... >> >>But BD, did you see _incongruous_ juxtaposition when you saw those >>large prints? >> >>And... there isn't any "weird" in HCB's work... at least none that I can >>remember. I've always thought that any surreal art needs to be a little >>bit weird. >> >>I don't mean the now common usage of the word surreal to mean almost >>anything unexpected and/or different. >> >>Jim >> >> >> >> >>B. D. Colen wrote: >> >>>BUZZ!!!! Get your butt in here!!! :-) >>> >>>In fact, HCB himself has been quoted as saying that around the time of >>>the founding of Magnum, the late Robert Capa "...was very wise. He told >>>me not to >>>call myself a surrealist, but instead, a photojournalist." >>> >>>I admit that I had some trouble getting my brain around this idea, >>>focused as I was on HCB's subject manner. But then I saw some classic >>>HCB images blown up to slide screen size - and BINGO! There is was - >>>shape, form, shadow, odd juxtaposition of objects..... >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org >>>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of >>>Jim Hemenway >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:49 AM >>>To: Leica Users Group >>>Subject: Re: [Leica] WAS: Intro NOW: HCB. >>> >>> >>>I don't think of him a surrealist with a camera BD... a painter with a >>>camera perhaps, or maybe a sociologist with a camera? :-) >>> >>>Parke-Harrison are surrealists with a camera: >>>http://www.bonnibenrubi.com/Parkeharrison/parkeharrison.html >>>http://www.parkeharrison.com/ >>>http://www.decordova.org/decordova/exhibit/parkeharrison/parkeharrison04 >>>.html >>> >>>Jim >>> >>> >>>B. D. Colen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>True enough. The other thing to keep in mind when thinking about HCB >>>>is that while we may be looking to capture something about the human >>>>condition, he was looking to capture something having to do with form, >>> >>> >>>>shape and light. Not to start the surrealist thread again, but >>>>Gdamnit, he was not a PJ - although he did some PJ - he was a >>>>surrealist with a camera. >>>> >>>>B. D. >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org >>>>[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf >>>>Of Ted Grant >>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:32 AM >>>>To: Leica Users Group >>>>Subject: [Leica] WAS: Intro NOW: HCB. >>>> >>>> >>>>B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> >>>>To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> >>>>Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 2:13 PM >>>>Subject: RE: Re: [Leica] Intro >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I'd argue that the "decisive moment" was that instant in which he saw, >>>> >>>> >>>>>or anyone sees, the possibilities in a particular setting or >>>>>situation. He didn't see a guy in mid-jump across a puddle and shoot - >>>> >>>> >>>>>he saw a puddle and the possibilities it presented; he didn't see >>>>>someone on a given staircase - he saw the staircase, and waited for >>>>>the right person in the right position. Others of just might have shot >>>> >>>> >>>>>a puddle, or a staircase. ;-)<< >>>> >>>> >>>>And because he was a consummate artist he would see elements in a >>>>street >>>> >>>>scene and know one element was missing just by looking. However, the >>>>gift he had was to see and then wait for the one element that created >>>>the "Decisive >>>>moment." >>>> >>>>The rest of us see things and capture good photo moments, but he had >>>>this ability to see something good and yet know it required one tiny >>>>extra thing >>>>or wait the moment longer to make it the perfect picture if you like. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>he didn't see someone on a >>>>> >>>>>given staircase - he saw the staircase, and waited for the right >>>>>person in the right position. ;-)<< >>>> >>>> >>>>Absolutely! As that's one of the gifts he had, was to wait for the >>>>icing on the cake to make it perfect. But most of all he had the >>>>patience to wait. >>>>The rest of us are always in a hurry to go some place, either to work, >>>>going >>>>to the Mall or wherever and our pictures quite often are a grabbed >>>>moment >>>>instead of seeing the complete moment by waiting a few minutes or >>> >>>longer >>> >>> >>>>for >>>>the filling in the cake to make it great! >>>> >>>>ted >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Leica Users Group. >>>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Leica Users Group. >>>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Leica Users Group. >>>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Leica Users Group. >>See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >