[Leica] Photogs in a Digitally Abreviated World

[bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)]

Dante - While I don't disagree with you at all about what happens to our
prints after we go to the Leica site in the sky, I have to disagree
about the longevity of prints not mattering while we're alive.

First off, I don't know about you, but I don't want to have to keep
reprinting the same images every few years. Second off, if we do any
professional work at all, sell any prints, we don't want
clients/customers coming back complaining about fading and discoloring
of prints.

B. D.

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[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Dante Stella
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [Leica] Photogs in a Digitally Abreviated World 


Let me offer a different perspective.  Archival life does not matter 
while you are alive, because you can always make more prints.  Or scan 
negs or whatever.  Nor does it matter after you die.

Let's start with the brutal truth.  No one will care about 99% of your 
(anyone's) pictures when you are gone.  Some basic photos for your 
family e via.  Look in every antique store that has a box of old family 
photos for sale.  Bet the people in them were glad they spent a 
princely sum of money on a photograph.  I have seen enough deaths in my 
time to know that photographs are among the things that get weeded 
through, if not pitched.  What good will your selenium-toned, acid-free 
fiber-based prints be when your widow/er or survivors throw them out?  
What about when they are banished to a basement or attic to be 
discovered two generations later, and no one can make any sense of 
them?

The events of your life live only in your memory.  Likewise, you only 
leave a legacy in other people's memories. Although they might be of 
some sentimental value to your family, your photographic works will 
only live on through being great.  If your photographs are masterful, 
incredible works of art, rest assured that people will take care of 
them - and make use of them - long after you are gone.  When you see 
him, ask Ansel Adams.  I would not be worried about negative life, 
print life, anything.  People in the future will find a way to do what 
they need to do to preserve the materials.  If your photographs are 
mediocre, there's no need to worry at all.  They'll probably only 
outlast you by a month.

Dante






On Dec 13, 2004, at 2:16 AM, Stephen Gandy wrote:

> a few years ago I bought a Canon S900
> at the time it was a best rated printer, and Canon claimed a print
> life of
> 25 years
>
> Canon  lied.
> prints were badly faded within 6 months indoors, with no exposure to 
> sunlight, using Canon inks and the best Canon papers.
>
> it's easy to get excited about digital's ease
>
> it's also far to easy to forget about how long the digital image we
> worked
> so hard for will be around.
>
> digital prints aren't proven to last as long as silver, regardless of
> any
> claims made otherwise, cause digital prints and storage mediums ain't
a
> hundred years old yet !
>
> buyers of art prints have a right to expect their investment to be 
> protected not only during their lifetime, but during their survivor's 
> lifetime as well.  anything less is unacceptable.
>
> but forget them. Photographers have the right to expect their work 
> will last during our lifetime, and beyond for their families after
they pass
> over.   real world, digital work may not do that at its present state 
> of
> development.  sure, it will eventually happen, but that will be of
> little
> consequence to those who lose years of work, or even entire careers, 
> due to
> digital degradation of prints and storage mediums.
>
> the only way I know of to really safeguard that valued digital print
> is to
> make a silver neg copy of the digital print.  in silver I trust the 
> future,
> not digital.  someday maybe, but not now.  I am open to other 
> solutions,
> but I won't believe unproved claims of  estimated life spans of
digital
> prints and digital storage mediums.
>
> Stephen Gandy
>
>
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