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Subject: [Leica] Bad Exposure or Something Else?
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Mon Dec 6 13:11:31 2004

Douglas - having seen that scene myself a zillion times, I would guess
that what you did with the color and contrast is on the money. However,
I'd humbly suggest that you may have over sharpened it a bit.

B. D.

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Steve Barbour
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:57 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Bad Exposure or Something Else?


that's splendid Douglas...


Steve

Douglas M. Sharp wrote:
> Sorry this took a while Richard, I only just installed Elements 3.0 
> and
> a few plugins that I had to get used to before I got round to trying a

> few tricks on your image.
> 
> Processing sequence as follows :
> Grey point picked from a part of the road
> a touch of Focus Magic to pick out the thinner twigs and the cars 
> shadow/highlight shift in PS a warming filter
> a slight increase in saturation
> a touch more dark in the shadows
> 
> I've posted your original, John's version and mine in the following 
> sub
> gallery.
> 
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/TESTS
> 
> Let me know what you think
> regards
> Douglas
> 
> 
> 
> Richard S. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> John - Your "sinful" attempt to correct the image is certainly closer
>> to what I saw - and thanks you and to all the others who responded 
>> with ideas and suggestions.
>>
>> What really bothers me about the photo (and about the dozen or so
>> others I took at the same time) is the blown out highlights.  I've
now 
>> looked at the negatives more carefully and the highlights are badly 
>> blown out there, too.  (Which eliminates the scanning as an issue.)
I 
>> think if the highlights weren't so badly blown it might have been 
>> possible to make something of the picture.
>>
>> So, I think what I've learned is:
>>
>> 1. ASA 400 color negative film really isn't universal. I should have
>> used a longer-scale film, ASA 100 or so, in this situation.
>>
>> 2. Overexposure really isn't OK with color negative film (though is
>> far more forgiving than slide film).  I've always exposed for the 
>> shadows and let the highlights take care of themselves.   That 
>> obviously doesn't always work.
>>
>> 3. Photoshop can't fix everything.
>>
>> You are forgiven.  Your good works saved you.  Go and sin no more...
>> (unless that is, you want to try again to fix one of my miserable 
>> attempts to commit photography, in which case, sin away.)
>>
>>> May God have mercy on my immortal soul. Is this more what you had in
>>> mind?
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/album63/another_man_s_image
>>>
>>> John Collier
>>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2004, at 5:50 PM, Richard S. Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>> As I turned onto Memorial Drive in Cambridge last week the 
>>>> sycamores
>>>> along the drive were glowing white-gold in the mid-afternoon 
>>>> sunlight.  I quickly parked and took pictures.  The results were 
>>>> disappointing to say the least.  I've posted one example here:
>>>>
>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/PICKS/21_0021>
>>>>
>>>> Photographic qualities of the picture aside, I wonder if any of you
>>>> might have any thoughts on what I might have done to improve the 
>>>> rendition of the glowing trees that I saw with my eyes.  There
seems 
>>>> to be an exposure issue here since the highlights look blown out
but 
>>>> would it have been better on a slower film, or is there a scanning 
>>>> problem, or something else?
>>>>
>>>> This photo isn't even close to the image I had in my head.
>>>> Manipulation in Photoshop to darken the image overall helps but 
>>>> isn't really the solution.  The posted picture is unmanipulated and

>>>> uncropped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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