Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/11/18

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Subject: [Leica] M4 - M4P - M4-2
From: frankandaubrey at mindspring.com (Frank Farmer)
Date: Thu Nov 18 09:40:51 2004

It should also be noted that the M4 does not have a "hot" shoe for flash.  
The M4-2 and M4-P do have "hot"
shoes.  Also, the viewfinders have different framelines too.  The M4-P has 6 
frame lines like the M6.  The other two have 4 frame lines like the original 
M4.  I think.  Finally, the later two models can take a motor winder.  The 
original was not set up for that I don't believe.  Not sure.  

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Pahlen <hans.pahlen@telia.com>
Sent: Nov 18, 2004 7:01 AM
To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
Subject: Re: [Leica] M4 - M4P - M4-2

I would get a M4-P, cuz they are newest.
The M4 is most expensive, cuz it also has some collectors value. OTH it is 
the nicest camera IMHO, but here I am only nostalgic.
The M4-2 has a reputation of being a problem camera. This is probaly not 
true, but this is the reason why they are cheapest.
I would not hesitate to buy one if it is OK.

But, as I said, my advice to you is to get the M4-P.

You can check the shutter condition by listening to the 1/30th. You should 
hear a second bouncing sound immediately after the curtain closes. If you 
here this, and the lower times sound right, you can trust that the mechanism 
is OK. You can check the rangefinder by looking through the viewfinder at a 
distant object. Focus should be correct with the lens set at infinity.

In all deals, remember to beat down the price. It is a buyers market for 
Leicas, because of the digital boom.

Good luck
Hans

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel ROCHA" <daniel.rocha@free.fr>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:41 PM
Subject: [Leica] M4 - M4P - M4-2


> Hello all,
>
> In my quest for a M body, I'm look at the M4 bodies.
>
> Is there any one (M4, M4P or the M4-2) that is not
> as reliable than the 2 others ?!
>
> Their prices are different and I don't know if it's better
> to buy one of the 3 M4's !
>
> Regards,
> Daniel.
>
>
> <> Daniel Rocha -  Photographie <>
> http://www.monochromatique.com
>
>
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