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Subject: [Leica] MP Viewfinder still flare
From: luisripoll at telefonica.net (Luis Ripoll)
Date: Mon Nov 8 16:11:03 2004

Hi William,

Yes, you are right, in some points of vue, if my MP flare is because the eye
is not on the ideal position, but I thought that MP would be as M3, with
this one is no matter the eye position.
Saludos desde Barcelona, and thanks for your opinion
Luis

-----Mensaje original-----
De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org]En nombre de
William G. Lamb, III
Enviado el: lunes, 08 de noviembre de 2004 6:10
Para: Leica Users Group
Asunto: Re: [Leica] MP Viewfinder still flare


Dick,

Whatever the answer might be, I'm sure it isn't simple. My M7 is a warranty
replacement because my first camera had a DX coding defect. It flares very
little but does not have the MP mod. Serial # is 285xxxx. It may or may not
have been reworked. My M5 flares less of course, but to avoid flare, it is
important to keep your eye centered in the eye-piece. (As a long-time Leica
user, you probably know this.) All M7's have the coated windows. The MP mod
is not an MP rangefinder assembly. Not all the parts fit. I forget which.
My M7 doesn't flare badly enough for me to get the upgrade. Allegedly, M7's
after 2885xxx have the MP mod.

I also have an MP .58 which is a Leica "Demo". I know all .58's have less
tendency to flare anyway, but this example has a very bright viewfinder and
has never flared period. Maybe a good M3 is better, but I never owned one,
since my 35/f2 has always been my "normal" lens. Of course, I keep my eye
centered by habit.

Still surprised that Luis has an MP which flares much, unless his eye
position is not ideal. Even my M5 can flare if I do not keep my eye
centered properly.

William

At 07:53 PM 11/07/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>I was surprised by this residual flare myself when I was looking at recent
>model M's earlier this year.  The three recent M7s and one MP I looked at
>all flared at the left and right edges of the rangefinder patch under the
>right conditions.  This was a big disappointment since the flare in my
>Wetzlar M6 was annoying and I wanted a camera that was free of it.
>
>Strictly by chance I looked at Betriebskamera M7 in the same serial number
>range as these other cameras (2,88X,XXX) and it didn't flare at all.  I
>bought it.  This experience make me wonder if the residual flare in the
>other recent M7s and MPs isn't an alignment issue since I understand that
>the Betriebskamera models are all individually reworked before being put
>on the market,


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