Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/10/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Up to my personal knowing, I have not yet see that digital quality is better than film. Secondly, a Leica M will be for me as a old watch Pathek Philippe or other, mechanical is for my mentality for the life, and always a value. Digital is electronic, batteries, plastic, technology...., two years and has no value. Why we need a digital?, which are the reasons? Comfort, economy of film?.... , we will expense much more with evolution of the technology. Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org]En nombre de B. D. Colen Enviado el: viernes, 15 de octubre de 2004 21:23 Para: 'Leica Users Group' Asunto: RE: [Leica] Digital "crop factor" And what are the advantages of the film M that a well designed and manufactured digital M would lack - other than film? -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Luis Ripoll (Of) Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 3:11 PM To: 'Leica Users Group' Subject: RE: [Leica] Digital "crop factor" For me and very probably for much of us is no important a M digital, personally I don't need, neither I wan't it; up to this moment UI can't imagine a M digital with all the advantages of the actual. For me digital was initially a fashion, now is very probably - unfortunately - at least for me, the future. When I was young I maked films as amateur in 8 mm, the Super 8 was no so gut, neither the equipments, neither the film, after went the video. I've never do, neither used a video camera, I've finish doing movies a lot of years ago. I hope that when this arrive with the photography I'll be to old. Saludos desde Barcelona Luis -----Mensaje original----- De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de B. D. Colen Enviado el: viernes, 15 de octubre de 2004 20:52 Para: 'Leica Users Group' Asunto: RE: [Leica] Digital "crop factor" Sorry, Feli - This has nothing to do with 'stiff upper lip,' because while I think it would be sad, from an historical perspective, to see Leica go belly up, I have no real emotional investment - and no financial investment - in what happens to the company. I'm just trying to inject what I view as a bit of realism into this endless discussion about nothing. Keep in mind - First Lecia said it couldn't be done. Then, the nano-second that Epson announced that they had done it, Leica announced that it was launching a digital M project.;-) Now comes the digital back - not full frame - for a camera system that has been a loss leader for Leica for some time. And now we're talking about whether there will be a full-frame Leica M after the cropped Leica M? I think the more relevant question might be how many of us will live to see Leica produce a digital M, and/or will Leica live to produce a digital M. Or will Leica die, or be bought up by another company, and sell its lenses to the people who buy a Zeiss digital "M." (And I am inclined to believe that we will see a digital M camera from Zeiss before we see one from Leica, but I could certainly be as wrong about that as the people who said we'd never see any digital M camera, or, for that matter, the people who as recently as 9-12 months ago were telling us that digital was just a passing fancy. ;-) B. D. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of feli Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:35 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital "crop factor" Oh, B.D. come one now. Where's that stiff upper lip? ;-) Let's see what happens and hope for the best. If it blows up in our face, we'll have plenty of time to bitch about it. Besides, someone will probably swoop in and buy them if the shit really hits the fan. Feli On Oct 15, 2004, at 11:08 AM, B. D. Colen wrote: > I wouldn't bet on anything "down the road," Feli. Face it, most of the > market for the digital M is going to be the amateur/hobbiest market, > and how many people in that category are going to pay $5000 to $7000K > for a > 1.33 crop digital M and then turn around and pay $10K later on for a > full-frame model? Damn few. And if people don't buy the 1.33 crop model > - assuming there is one, thinking they're going to wait for the full > frame model, Leica will go belly up while people wait. > > BTW - Where is the digital back for the R? Does anyone have an arrival > date? > > B. D. ________________________________________________________ feli2@earthlink.net www.elanphotos.com _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information