Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/29

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Subject: [Leica] Photokina - latest
From: locke at (Greg Locke)
Date: Wed Sep 29 17:20:29 2004

What??? ...not partying with the Fuji Chicks?

Good Work, Doug. Have a beer, breakfast and get back out there!!!

Thanks :^)

Greg Locke
St. John's, Newfoundland
Independent journalism from
Newfoundland & Labrador

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
> [] On 
> Behalf Of Douglas M. Sharp
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:55 PM
> To: LEG; Leica Users Group; LeicaReflex; LUC; MUG; rflist; 
> SLRMAN; Rollei
> Subject: [Leica] Photokina - latest
> Just got back from the Photokina about 15 minutes ago with 
> steaming feet  and tired out.
> Voigtl?nder :  Was able to play with the R3A and R2A, both 
> very nice solidly built cameras, the R2A was a pre-production 
> prototype and obviously not feeling very well .  BIG SURPRISE 
> - the Ringfoto rep and the Voitl?nder man both put the price 
> as BELOW that of the R2 
> !!!!!!!!!.    They  quoted 699 Euros as the expected rrp.
> Cosina / Epson RD-1 : a lot of these to play with, again very 
> solid chunky build, the controls on the back are NOT 
> intuitive and the LCD pad is a fingernail destroyer. The 
> Epson people couldn't or wouldn't give me a definitive price 
> for the European market.
> ZEISS : The Zeiss Ikon is very real, as are the lenses and 
> all are beautifully finished, the aux. finders look a little delicate.
> A beautifully simple clean design and feels qualitively 
> superb, the back door of the prototype I handled seemed to be 
> a little weak, but I didn't get the chance to look at it in 
> detail, so many others were wanting to play.
> The PRICE :   Very probably between 1500 and 1800 euros, this may be 
> revised closer to the release date, no price info on lenses 
> available as yet. The Zeiss people are all VERY excited about 
> the Ikon.
> LEICA : The a la carte leicas are a wonderful way of ruining 
> a perfect camera - Leica says that all the finishes offered 
> are as a result of  customer demands/enquiries, they pull out 
> what looks like a furnishing catalogue with leather samples 
> and metal finishes and away you go. As most of you already 
> know I still don't like the styling of the R9 - we've been 
> into this before - it is a very ergonomic machine, I just 
> don't like it a personal thing which brooks no argument. 
> However, the Digital Back is there and up and running, still 
> costs 4500 euros but for each R9 and lens you buy you can get 
> 250 euros off the price of the back. It is a real nose 
> squasher and stands quite a way off the back of the camera.
> More tomorrow,with a couple of snapshots. It's late here in 
> Europe and I'm away to my bed.
> Cheers
> Douglas
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