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Subject: [Leica] Re: New Zeiss Ikon
From: bdcolen at (B. D. Colen)
Date: Wed Sep 29 15:14:35 2004

That's a sensible response. It's not a response based on a belief that
Leica will survive, but a response based on your desires as a shooter
owner to have more produce choice. And, sure, having more manufacturers
means more choice. For a while.

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Borden
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:41 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Re: New Zeiss Ikon

B. D. Colen wrote:

> Emanuel says..
> "The old era of Zeiss - Leitz rivalry was a heady time
> for 35mm design," and asks...
> "Now, in these days, how will Leica respond?"
> ---
> As they, sadly, always have ... With too little, too late, and at too 
> high a price.
> These are not the heady days of the Zeiss/Leitz competition - which, 
> if we recall, were actually the days of the Zeiss/Leitz/Nikon 
> competition.
> ;-)
> These are the days of the Zeiss/Kyocera/Cosina/Hassie consortium 
> moving in to clean up the remaining scraps from the rangefinder table 
> - scraps that could have been Leicas had Leica moved 18 months ago, or

> even further back, when the Cosina handwriting was writ large upon the

> wall.

I have a different take. For one, I am a whole lot more comfortable 
investing more $$$ in new glass knowing that there are now 3-4 
companies in the M space. I think it will make the M stronger, and 
prevent it from being relegated to a legacy product -- recall that Ted 
Grant has been heard to muse about selling his Leicas for some new 
digital gear. Having these companies in this space means that there 
will be some competition. For me, this means we are a whole lot more 
likely to get a reasonable quality digital M as well as a bunch of new 
glass. The 15 Distagon really looks like an interesting digital lens 
... yes assuming it can be had for a reasonable price, but why not?


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