Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/29

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Subject: [Leica] Vario-Elmar-R 28-70/3.5-4.5 vs 35-70/4
From: grduprey at (
Date: Wed Sep 29 07:53:16 2004

I will have to agree with Marc about the 28 - 70 lens, although the 
mechanical quality is not up to Leica standards.  I will also qualify this 
last, I have the first version of the lens and the built in hood has 
gotten to the point that it does not stay in place at all.  Otherwise a 
great lens.


The 28-70 is a GREAT lens, don't listen to the purist hubub. I have 
only two R lenses left, the 28-70 and a Summilux 50 - I find the 28-70 
to be extremely convenient and of excellent quality. In particular, it 
makes fantastic images of people in the 50-70 range, and I use it as a 
'candid portrait' lense very often. It is also a relative bargain.

The lens cap is a pain - it always falls off, but then I hardly ever 
use it anyway...

That is my impression, but I'll admit to not being a Leica Snob; I 
judge the lenses by the images, not the country of manufacture :-)

- marc

On Sep 28, 2004, at 11:53 PM, SML wrote:

> Hello,
>   I have been using the 80-200/4 Vario-Elmar with satisfaction 
> specially
> with black & white film for several years despite the fact that it is 
> made
> in Japan.  In my book, it performs as good as a German lens 
> mechanically and
> optically.  Now I am thinking of getting me either one of the zoom 
> lenses in
> the subject line to cover the wide side.  I understand that both are 
> made in
> Japan (by Cosina or Minolta).  I would appreciate any of your 
> experience
> with either lens compared with the 80-200/4.  I know some say the 
> 28-70 is a
> black sheep of the Leica lens family if the 35-70/4 is pretty well 
> comparing
> with the 80-200 which is optically excellent enough to bear the Leica 
> name.
> Is it pretty much in the same league as the old 35-70/3.5 (designed by
> Minolta) which is generally considered mediocre.
> Thanks,
> David
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Replies: Reply from michiel.fokkema at (Michiel Fokkema) ([Leica] Vario-Elmar-R 28-70/3.5-4.5 vs 35-70/4)
In reply to: Message from attinasi at (Marc Attinasi) ([Leica] Vario-Elmar-R 28-70/3.5-4.5 vs 35-70/4)