Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/22

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Subject: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
From: leicagalpal at (Kit McChesney)
Date: Wed Sep 22 10:34:02 2004


Look on Kodak's own site, under Professional films. And stay away from
'consumer' grade film at Mall-Wart. Pro films are so much better. It's like
putting bad-quality ketchup on your tenderloin. (You could try Heinz, of
course!) ;-)


-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of
Jim Nichols
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 9:37 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: RE: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film


My experience with C41 film has been limited to Kodak BW400-2, the comsumer
film available at Wal-Mart.  In some instances, it appears to offer less
contrast and more bland images than I recall from my years of using
silver-based film.  I was just looking for comments from others about their
experiences with this type of film.  I have actually made a few very good
images with the film, so my problem may stem more from my technique than
from the film.
I was also curious about the differences in Kodak films of this type.  Do
you know of a reference website that explains the various films and their
intended uses?

Jim Nichols

> [Original Message]
> From: Dan Colucci <>
> To: Leica Users Group <>
> Date: 9/22/2004 7:17:25 AM
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
> James - I have read your comments twice - what are you saying ?  I find
> Kodak Portra BW400, used in contrasty lighting, is just superb with
> final tonal range and superb detail...Edge sharpness is lacking, but I
> enjoy the smooth tonality, especially for portraits
> Dan
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [] On Behalf Of
> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 1:27 PM
> To:
> Subject: [Leica] Black and White C41 Film
> Comparing results with C41 B&W to the results I got with Plus-X, Super
> XX, and Tri-X in the 1950s and 60s when I had my own darkroom, I have
> been somewhat disappointed.  Though, without a darkroom, it appears to
> be the most convenient way to shoot B&W.  However, after pulling the
> image below from a cluttered negative taken amid the confusion of a
> wedding rehearsal supper, I find that, if I do my job, the film will
> take care of itself.  The image shows the bride-to-be, my granddaughter,
> in a reflective mood after a busy day, with an even busier day ahead.
> Leica IIIf RD, Summitar 5cm f/2.0
> Exposure 1/50 at f/2.8
> Kodak BW400-2
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