Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/09/02

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Subject: [Leica] Mounting inkjet prints
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu Sep 2 01:59:34 2004

On 9/1/04 11:04 PM, "Adam Bridge" <abridge@gmail.com> typed:

> How are people choosing to mount inkjet prints?
> 
> Drymount?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Adam

If they would be behind than I'd suggest not mounting them. That's not even
going to make them flatter. And air dried crudely flattened fiber darkroom
prints are rarely mounted any more than that might improve them from a
flatness point of view. No the thing to do now is to hang them with "tapes"
or use corner things on them.
>From light impressions.

Photo Corners
Adhesives/Glues
Paper Tapes
Tyvek Tape
Acid-Free Linen Tape
Mounting Strips
Hook and Loop

http://www.lightimpressionsdirect.com/servlet/OnlineShopping?Dsp=10000&PCR=3
0000:120000:122000&R=8836

Then the mat goes over them and the glass over the matt.

Or just use a stack of sandwiched mats.
My portfolio was in that form once. I think they were 14x15 with 11x14s in
there but sometimes an 8x10 in there.

If I was getting into a thing where I wanted a stack of mounted prints to go
around as is with no mats I'd still forgo spraying or dry mounting.
The spraying you do if you're assuming your stuff is not very archival and
therefore near worthless for collectors and galleries.
I'd not sell my self to short and count yourself out of this kind of stuff
as many of the best artists were nowhere near as mediocre as they thought
they were. Everything you do you are leaving a legacy.

So if I was getting as I'm thinking of doing into having a stack of flush
mounted prints on cards I'd not do it the way I'd done it before.
I had dry mounted 11x14s or 16x20's on to museum board and trimmed the sides
so they were flush. Otherwise they're not and they really look and feel bad
in your hands.
And its ok expect that no two prints are exactly the same size if you're
cutting each one down to make the boards flush with the prints..
It's not like a precut stack of cards. The feel and effect is much
different.
You can't flip though it although in a way that's good.
But its just one more amateurish thing one could live without.

So I'd spend some bucks using exotic brands of very thick almost card stock
paper.
Say from these people
http://www.redrivercatalog.com/
You can shop for exotic extra thick or expensive or very foreign papers by
printer from these guys. You click on your printer and see the choices. They
are varied and very exotic. Swiss, German, Japanese papers.
It could be the Japanese papers are the best when you get into very high end
stuff.
I know that the best water color paper has always cost way more than the
best silver encrusted photo paper.
Despite the total lack of silver. Or emulsion.

And I think some of this exact stuff you can run though many an inkjet
paper. On a trial by error basis.

Also Epson makes Enhanced matt posterboard. But you have to cut them down.
They are way cool it seems to me.

I may be heading in that direction...
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductMediaSpec.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&i
nfoType=Overview&oid=-10390&category=Paper+%26+Media
You know these things are not going to come apart on you on your yearly trip
to the center of the monsoons. Or the Bermuda triangle. Or inside the
Egyptian pyramids.
Those damp spots.


" For photographers seeking a flat matte surface with the stiffness of a
mounted product, EPSON Enhanced Matte Posterboard is the ideal choice. This
bright white posterboard is perfect for short term signage and display. It
yields highly saturated images, while maintaining excellent highlight and
shadow detail. Designed primarily for use with EPSON UltraChrome? and
Archival? Inks, this versatile posterboard can also be used with dye-based
inks. Hobbyists, professional photographers and digital artists alike will
find EPSON Enhanced Matte Paper a remarkable solution for any project."

I have a 2200 so this would be perfect for me.
And I just saw some prints from this stuff yesterday at my local Pro Photo
shop. Coincidently as well the  EPSON Enhanced Matte paper in it's regular
version is pretty much my favorite all around printing paper. I've not
really tried the exotic stuff so much yet. And maybe never will.
For darkroom work I just resisted all temptation and stuck/stick to Ilford.
I might go from the cool to the warm to the neural stuff to RC but all my
sheets made for a perfect stack. And it's just great paper.
No dry down surprises.
With my inkjet paper now I  just might decide to not fool around and just
stick to Epson. I wonder who makes their paper for them? Did they really buy
a paper mill? I doubt it.
It's getting so I should join the EUG. Epson user group. I sue their
printer, paper and am about to use their camera for my Leica M glass.

With the 2200 you can stick this posterboard paper stuff in the back and it
goes straight through to the front. No bend. So it works. You'd have to have
a printer like that or could somehow use very thick stocks.

It comes in 24" X 30", 10 for a hundred bucks.
Ten bucks a sheet. 4 11x14's a sheet. $2.50 an 11x14.
I imagine though you could proof your stuff with regular enhanced matt
paper. Which is like 60 cents a sheet.
You'd hate to crank out a $ 2.50 an 11x14 and have it come out too light. Or
dark.

I Hope you're not into glossy because I just down know. I somehow think
they're not going to make super thick glossy papers. Don't know why I think
that. I just do.








Mark Rabiner
Photography
Portland Oregon
http://rabinergroup.com/






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