Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/08/26

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Subject: [Leica] Flat lighting and perverts
From: bdcolen at (B. D. Colen)
Date: Thu Aug 26 12:54:14 2004

I'd suggest that the thing that makes these photos both interesting and
disturbing, is the non-lighting lighting. It gives them a very
matter-of-fact, straight-ahead look that is very weird given the subject
matter. To me, starting to add theatrical/fashion/arty lighting will
produce very run-of-the-mill soft-porn artsy/fartsy bondage photos. And
these are way beyond that.

B. D.

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Greg Locke
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:44 PM
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Subject: RE: [Leica] Flat lighting and perverts

OK we are talking about stage craft and theatrical lighting.

1/ more directional
2/more contrasty (harsh)

Ditch the even balance lighting.(forget softboxes)

With the suspended subject try one light directly from above  

The fire shot was ruined by the back light.
Use the fire light supplemented with some orange gelled to "boost" from
the same direction of from beneath.

...but beyond the lighting thing the problem (as pointed out by others)
is that there is no "umph". It looks static. The subjects are working to
hard to co-operate... No tension or drama.

It needs to "look" less contrived and set up.

Go back to your earlier goth girls and look at the more harsh light you
were using. Yeah, that's a studio shot too but for a brief second it
causes you to pause in doubt.

Why? The lighting looks uncontrolled and the models are not "trying to

If you can switch one of you lights to half power, try tha and throw a
colour gel on it. Go for shallower DOF to cut down on the form


...comprende vous?

Greg Locke
St. John's, Newfoundland

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