Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/08/26

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Riefenstahl's filmed Olympics
From: bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)
Date: Thu Aug 26 07:04:06 2004

No, Gene - What I STATED is that Leica quality control has slipped to
the point where they can't even release a 50 mm lens without having
problems. That does NOT imply that there were problems with all, or even
with most of the lenses. 

B. D.
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Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: [Leica] Re: Riefenstahl's filmed Olympics


B. D.

No you did not actually say it, but you certainly did imply it in your
writings.

Gene



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Uh, Greg? Anyone who R E A D S the posts know that I did not say that
"all new 50mm Summiluxes in the first batch are defective" or anything
like it. Do you know what quotation marks are for?

This is what I wrote:

"And we can, of course, talk about the bygone age when Leica made
produced top quality equipment, as opposed to the current age when they
apparently can't even produce a 50 mm lens without having mechanical
problems in the first batch." And that is, of course, an absolutely
accurate description of the situation.

Oddly enough, I don't see the words "all the new 50mm Summiluxes in the
first batch are defective," which is what you quoted me as saying. Nor
do I believe anyone who is able to read say that what I wrote even
suggests that all the lenses were defective.

As to my calling you "an asshole," I'm just expressing myself in
language I'm sure you can understand, and that even you could probably
quote correctly.

B. D.





As to your "agreeing with me" ... I doubt that anyone reading your post
- other than you - would come to that conclusion

-----Original Message-----
From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
GREG LORENZO
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:30 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: [Leica] Re: Riefenstahl's filmed Olympics


"B. D. Colen" writes:

> Are you suggesting, Greg, that Walt was neither a well-known Nazi 
> sympathizer and anti-Semite?

Er no. Actually I was agreeing with you. Pretty rare isn't it!
>
> I realize you detest me, and if I write to say that the sun is out 
> todayin Boston, you'll insist that the sun has, in fact, disappeared
from the sky.

I really don't have time to "detest" anyone. Not even the likes of foul
mouthed fools.

> But just once to avoid letting everyone see what an asshole you are 
> and check your facts before blasting away.

If light of your recent  based on one report comment I have no further
comment except I'm still looking for the $ 1,200 F5's and the $850 M6's.

> I realize that keeping folksfrom seeing you for what you are is tough 
> at this point, given that you've paraded naked before us so often, but

> give it a try
anyway.
> ;-)

See above.

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Replies: Reply from feli at creocollective.com (Feli di Giorgio) ([Leica] RE: Riefen now quality control)
In reply to: Message from grduprey at rockwellcollins.com (grduprey@rockwellcollins.com) ([Leica] Re: Riefenstahl's filmed Olympics)