[Leica] Leni Riefenstahl - A suggestion

[ruben at rhodos.dk (Ruben)]

Hi Phong

I agree with you on this matter - I would prefer that people stopped calling
each other assholes etc. because it is not bringing anything to the
discussion and I for one do not need that info in order to form an oppinon
on the individual person contibuting to this fine list.

Also it is very important that, when one of these overheated debates are
over, we are all able to fall back on talking summiwhatevers, without
anybody feeling hurt or rediculed

I also agree with you that Riefenstahl as an artist, regardless of her
beliefs, was a brilliant artist!

:-) Ruben


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phong" <phong@doan-ltd.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Leni Riefenstahl - A suggestion


> I disagree with you Peter.
> It's not so much what is debated but how it is
> debated that makes the discussion interesting.
> I for one appreciate hearing well thought
> out arguments on both sides.  I do not know
> much about the details of Leni Riefenstahl's
> private lifes (I know very litlle of any photographer's
> private life really), but what I have seen of her
> photography I greatly admire.  Even if she was
> a hardcore Nazi, that would not take away my
> recognition of her talent.  Genius is on both
> sides of "Good" and "Evil".  Nonetheless, I
> am interested in kowing more about her
> involvement with the Nazi, since the topic came
> up.
>
> - Phong
>
>
> Peter Dzwig wrote:
> >
> > OK guys, this Riefenstahl bit is getting more than a little boring now.
> >
> > Can I suggest a LUG position on Riefenstahl * Brian please note
> > *, that we as
> > photographers admit, if perhaps somewhat grudgingly at times,
> > that her images as
> > images per se are among the best of their day and that some (eg
> > Owens at the
> > start of the 100m) stand as great photos; but that we
> > wholeheartedly deplore her
> > apparent politics and any involvement she may have had with the
> > Nazi regime. and that we halt the discussion and consign her to the list
> of
> > subjects that
> > aren't discussed on this list.
>
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