Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/08/19

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Conformity in Athens NOW BEING A SHOOTER!
From: jcb at (JCB)
Date: Thu Aug 19 09:42:12 2004
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Your 1988 Soul Olympics shot, taken with a 280 APO, on page 280, is 


At 08:59 AM 8/19/2004, Ted Grant wrote:
>Olympic Photographers:
>Hey wait a minute you guys before you start ragging on these Olympic
>shooters! Particularly if you have never been ass to breakfast jammed into a
>" Photo position" not of your liking where you have absolutely no choice of
>where it is or who selected the position. "Here's the position like it or
>leave! "
>And no you don't wander around like you own the place as every position is
>locked down for the mob other than a few very choice shooters in the "photo
>pool" who have some limited movement.  Like may 4 - 5 guys out of hundreds
>during final events.
>Where you arrive 5 or 6 hours before the event starts and in the case of
>swimming you are in the position before dawn to wait for the preliminaries
>at 10 a.m that finish at about noon. Wait, your day isn't over.
>You now stay there and hold your spot so you'll be able to shoot the finals
>at 6 p.m. when the push and shove gets worse with every available inch of
>space is squeezed to use.
>While you're standing there, the guys in this picture are lucky as they look
>like they've got a seat, usually it's 2 or 3 hundred shooters packed behind
>a barrier along pool side on a riser.... that is if there's room for such a
>Then surrounded by police or soldiers so those... quote" God damn
>photographers will stay in their place!  And if any one of them has a foot
>over the line kick them back !" From the official training course!
>You can be standing there with a 600mm lens over your right and left
>shoulders from shooters behind you, there's a guy who hasn't had a shower
>for 5 days so close you're gagging from his body smell, the guy on your
>right had a massive garlic lunch and now you're close to puking your guts
>out! And you know what?
>You keep you eye glued to whatever camera or lens you're working with, and
>another thing you may have not noticed! Not a tripod in sight! It's all hand
>held or monopod.and you shoot the best damn pictures you're capable of
>because back in the press centre the photo editors' " DO NOT WANT TO HEAR
>So some of you "Olympic arm chair shooters who've never been there might
>think twice before you start making comments" because most of the guys there
>"MUST HAVE THE LONGEST GLASS THEY CAN BUY" Because the security people know
>these long lenses are available and keep pushing us back farther and
>farther. Hell in many cases your "normal lens" is a 300mm and a 2X extender
>in your pocket! After that you go big!
>Never mind looking at the athletes on TV , look at the photographers as
>they're the Olympic un-sung heroes that bring you those magnificent pictures
>to your newspapers and magazines!
>Oh and for some of the folk on the list. My comments come from the
>experience of covering all Olympics summer and winter since 1968 to 1992!
>And in between those, the "Worlds, Commonwealth Games and Pan American
>Games." Hey, but incredible and wonderful experiences all. Would I go again
>regardless of the above conditions? Damn in a heart beat! As it's as much an
>Olympic event to be chosen to make the cut to cover it as it is for the
>Leica Users Group.
>See for more information

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