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Subject: [Leica] About ready to give it up...
From: leicajh at earthlink.net (James Harrison)
Date: Sat Jul 24 15:15:27 2004

I can afford to see my daughter more often than I do, but the hassle and
crampted Boeings make me wait longer between visists.


James Harrison
http://home.earthlink.net/~leicajh/




> [Original Message]
> From: Adam Bridge <abridge@gmail.com>
> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: 7/24/2004 4:57:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] About ready to give it up...
>
> I take your point but feel that this then rests at the feet of the
> airlines and Boeing and AirBus for not building airplanes the way
> people actually USE them. I am now firmly in the Air Bus preference
> camp - at least as configured on the airlines I have flown they have
> wider aisles, fractionally wider seats, and overhead compartments that
> will take a roll-on case sitting perpendicular to the aisle so they
> take less space. Being 6-3, 280, I need all the space I can get. The
> airlines COULD have asked for more/better overhead space in the design
> of their airplanes - but they are more intent on squeezing every last
> passenger inch regardless of comfort. It's no wonder travellers get
> grumpy. (I won't even go into the issue of what passes for restrooms
> on Boeing aircraft beyond my desire to lock the designers into one
> for, say, a flight across the country, or the Pacific, depending on
> airframe.)
>
> It's a curious effect: airline luggage handling got worse and worse so
> passengers reacted by bringing more and more into the cabin with them
> so they wouldn't have to wait around for 45 minutes or so for their
> bags to (possibly) come off the carousel. So we got to live with big
> folding bags AND a briefcase AND something else. Which was ugly.
>
> Now it's much more convenient (at least for me) to check as much
> luggage as I can so I don't have to worry about taking it through
> security although I can no longer lock my bags so I can't put anything
> in them I don't want pilfered. I've taken to using a Timbuk2 messenger
> bag and a small Domke camera bag which works really well for me
> although sometimes I have to use a wheeled bag if I take the R8 and a
> long lens and tripod. AND it seems that the airlines are getting bags
> out of the aircraft and to the carousel faster than they used to. Or
> maybe I'm more resigned to it all.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:39:54 +0200, animal <s.jessurun95@chello.nl> wrote:
> > Has nothing to do with terrorists.
> > It,s just part of an industry effort to enhance safety.
> > Nect time you travel look in the overhead bins ,you,ll find a little
placard
> > there with the weight limitations.
> > These bins were not designed for the loads you typically encounter.That
> > means that in extreme turbulence or a otherwise survivable crash they,ll
> > fail and cause injury.
> > simon jessurun
> > amsterdam
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge@gmail.com>
> > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 11:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] About ready to give it up...
> > 
> > > It's when we're at the hands of capricious or arbitrary enforcement of
> > > inconsistent rules that we are most often the must frustrated --
> > > there's just no personal control for anyone when it happens and it
> > > definitely makes one NOT endure the situation that causes it.
> > >
> > > I remember flying to Australia on Qantas we were limited to a single
> > > bag. Fortunately I knew it well in advance and could plan. But I know
> > > I'd be very angry to have arrived at the airport to find that there
> > > was a weight limit as well as the single bag limit.
> > >
> > > More thanks to the terrorists!
> > >
> > > Adam
> > >
> > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:16:47 -1000, Karen Nakamura <mail@gpsy.com>
wrote:
> > > > >I think you were unlucky, Karen. For the past year I have flown
> > > > >weekly between Amsterdam and Spain (plus other trips to assorted
> > > > >other places), and I have not once had a problem carrying my
> > > > >Samsonite pilot case with computer, papers etc., and a small Domke
> > > > >bag with my cameras. And of course, by the time I get to the plane,
> > > > >I usually have a 3rd bag containing various liquid purchases from
> > > > >the tax-free shops :-)
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps. I find it very frustrating because you don't know until you
> > > > get to the airport what the policy is. It also seems to vary
> > > > depending on the:  check-in agent, carry-on baggage screener, and
> > > > gate agent.  I've been given varying information by these people on
> > > > the same flight!
> > > >
> > > > Some clearer information and training would be good.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Karen Nakamura
> > > > http://www.photoethnography.com/ClassicCameras/
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