[Leica] Digital M

[dpost at triad.rr.com (Dan Post)]

BD-
Once again- You hit the nail on the head. With all due respect to Greg,
being trapped in a mindset of wanting a 'full frame' with the 35mm aspect
ratio is really self limiting.
I would assume that when the old vest pocket Kodaks started to replace the
4x5 in general use, that many lamented the passing of the 'perfect' format,
and as you stated, those who use 2 1/4 negatives don't have such a problem.
Personally, I like to think the sensors are more 'half-frame'- the original
'cine' format! I am pleased that they are bigger and better than my Minox
negatives, even when I use the high resolution Agfa COPEX film. :o)~
Sadly, Leica may go the way of the Universal Camera Co., Folmer, Graflex,
and many of the other famous marques- I find dinosaurs fascinating, but in
the long run, I can live without them if need be. It's the same with the
Leica- I use a IIIf, and an M7, however much I like them the fact remains
that form- in such things as contrast and resolution, and fine lenses, are
not more important than content- insofar as the creative vision of the
photographer is concerned. It's a tool- and like my wish for a great old
Stanley mitre box, the fact remains that my trusty Delta 10" electric mitre
saw makes cleaner and more accurate cuts. The final product looks just fine,
and that is what matters.
Just my .02 worth!
Best of light to you,
Dan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:55 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Digital M


> They ain't - perfect. But I have to say that using a DSLR the difference
> in frame doesn't bother me at all - what I see is what I see is what I
> get. I'm not looking at a scene thinking '35 mm' any more than I'm doing
> that when I work with a 2 1/4....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> Greg Locke
> Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:49 PM
> To: 'Leica Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Digital M
>
>
> Actually, Nikon has stated publically that it has no intention of
> developing the "full frame sensor" and will concentrate on lens develop
> to maximize the current sensor.
>
> As a big part of their market is pro newspaper and wires service
> photographers the added focal lengths are a benefit.
>
> Myself I would prefer the full sensor because I am beginning to notice
> that perspectives, aspect ratios and DOF of the current Nikon cameras
> just don't correspond to film cameras either.
>
> It took me a year to figure out exactly why I couldn't "see" the same
> frame in digital as film.
>
> I'm at a stage where I use digital alongside film and its not nice. The
> company that can make the film-digital transition seamless and
> unnoticable will be making a breakthrough for those to shoot both
> ....which is most pros. That, short of some optical trickery, will
> require a full frame sensor.
>
> That said I have recently met a couple of young news photoraphers who
> have NEVER shot a roll of film professionally arfter first year college.
> They came out of school and went into all digital shops.
>
> Times have changed but the new tools still ain't perfect.
>
>
> Greg Locke
> St. John's, Newfoundland
> http://blog.greglocke.com
>
>  ----JUST RELEASED-------
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> by Greg Locke and Michael Crummey
> McClelland and Stewart
> ISBN # 0-7710-6142-0
> http://www.straylight.ca/newfoundland
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+locke=straylight.ca@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+locke=straylight.ca@leica-users.org] On
> > Behalf Of Jerry Justianto
> > Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 2:20 PM
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital M
> >
> > That will be a wrong move for Leica publishing the small
> > sensor in 2006.  By that time I think most sensor will be 1:1
> > like in EOS 1Ds
> >
> > JSJ
> >
> > On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:02:01 +0100, Steve Unsworth
> > <mail@steveunsworth.co.uk> wrote:
> > > You could always buy a Nocti if 800 wasn't fast enough ;-)
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: lug-bounces+mail=steveunsworth.co.uk@leica-users.org
> > > [mailto:lug-bounces+mail=steveunsworth.co.uk@leica-users.org] On
> > > Behalf Of B. D. Colen
> > > Sent: 11 July 2004 16:46
> > > To: 'Leica Users Group'
> > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Digital M
> > >
> > > So we're looking at a magnification factor of 1.37, a top
> > iso of about
> > > 800, and a price somewhere north of $4500 K? And a new lens
> > that will
> > > undoubtedly cost more than a couple Ms?
> > >
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