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Subject: [Leica] New York Times anonymous fine art photography Now Mark's screw up
From: s.dimitrov at (Slobodan Dimitrov)
Date: Sat Jul 3 15:14:02 2004

>From the looks of them, they smack of PR, and cut and paste work.
As for the rest, no thanks, I'll take my own.
S. Dimitrov

> From: Tina Manley <images@InfoAve.Net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <>
> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 17:19:06 -0400
> To: Leica Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] New York Times anonymous fine art photography Now 
> Mark's
> screw up
> At 10:37 PM 7/3/2004 +0200, you wrote:
>> But Tina, I assume that all of the named photographers entered into
>> whatever agreements they have with Getty voluntarily. So I still do not
>> see what is bad or immoral about these sales. Sure, from yours or Ted's
>> point of view it might be better if no print ever changed hands for less
>> than $500, but photographs, even fine art ones, are a commodity whose
>> price is set by supply and demand. There is nothing inherently moral or
>> immoral about that.
>> Nathan
> No, not necessarily voluntarily.  Getty bought out several stock agencies
> without any input from the photographers in the agencies.  Many
> photographers lost all rights to their photos that were in the agencies'
> libraries because of fine-print clauses in their original
> contracts.  Royalty Free has been terrible for photographers.  It has
> almost destroyed the stock photography business and may yet.  Instead of
> getting paid for every use of a photograph, some photographers sell all
> rights without a thought for the future.  Advertising agencies have begun
> to realize that it can be very embarrassing when two competing companies
> end up using the same royalty free photographs in their advertising
> campaigns, but many businesses are going for the cheapest possible
> photographs which are usually the RF disks with many photographs that can
> be used often for any purpose.  ASMP, APA, Editorial Photographers and
> other professional photographer associations fight against the use of RF
> photographs.
> Tina
> Tina Manley, ASMP
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