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Subject: [Leica] Susan Sontag
From: raikorho at uusikaupunki.fi (Raimo K)
Date: Wed May 26 13:58:56 2004
References: <BAY12-F16yo25w3tdR000031785@hotmail.com> <78287E5A-AF15-11D8-BB85-0050E42E6E0B@shaw.ca>

You do not live in the US of A?
All the best!
Raimo K
Personal photography homepage at:
http:\\www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Collier" <jbcollier@shaw.ca>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Susan Sontag


> My only comment on this wildly OT thread:
> 
> We had a local situation where children were being abducted and raped. 
> As the children were not being murdered as well, they was a hazy 
> description of perpetrator. Naturally everyone including the police 
> were outraged. Supposedly a police officer said they did not care what 
> condition the perpetrator might be in when he was turned over to the 
> police. A pair of earnest citizens captured a man matching the 
> description and over the course of an afternoon mercilessly beat and 
> tortured him. During a break in the proceedings the "perpetrator" 
> escaped by crawling out of a second story window. He was hospitalized 
> for a long long time, will never walk again and has severe brain 
> damage. It also turned out that they had the wrong man. The right man 
> was arrested after some good old fashion police leg work.
> 
> It is easy to invent imaginary situations where the outrage builds to 
> seemingly justify outrageous acts. However real life is often not so 
> simplistic and straight forward. Though I have never been arrested or 
> detained, I am grateful that I live in a society where abuse and 
> torture are not encouraged.
> 
> John Collier
> 
> 
> On May 26, 2004, at 6:10 AM, Philip Kokoczka wrote:
> 
> > What would you do?
> > A group of criminals have kidnapped your wife and daughter. They are 
> > known for gang raping, torturing and killing their captives. You 
> > happen to find and capture a couple of them. They know where your wife 
> > and daughter are being held, and have told you that they have only a 
> > short time left before the raping, torturing and killing begin. What 
> > do you do to get the information where your wife and daughter are 
> > being held? If you just ask them nicely to tell you where they are 
> > being held do you think they would tell you?  What length would you go 
> > to in order to get them to tell you the location at which your wife 
> > and daughter are being held?
> > snip
> 
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Replies: Reply from jbcollier at shaw.ca (John Collier) ([Leica] Susan Sontag)
In reply to: Message from kokoczkaphotography at hotmail.com (Philip Kokoczka) ([Leica] Susan Sontag)
Message from jbcollier at shaw.ca (John Collier) ([Leica] Susan Sontag)