[Leica] Was HCB that good?

[bdcolen at earthlink.net (B. D. Colen)]

I have to say that when I see a large assortment of the work, I think it
still stands out.

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From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org
[mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
Slobodan Dimitrov
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 5:22 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Was HCB that good?


Like B.D. said, looking through a retrospective of his work would give
you a sense of the scope of the work. While it can now appear somewhat
monotonous, for its day it really stood out. S. Dimitrov


> From: "Beddoe, Neil" <nbeddoe@lehman.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 18:14:40 +0100
> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: [Leica] Was HCB that good?
> 
> I've been trawling through my memory and the only HCB pics I remember 
> as being any good are the jump, On the Banks of the Marne and the one 
> with the fat man with the hat on in front of the wall with the kids 
> running about. All the others I can remember are just sort of OK.  
> There are plenty of other photographers who have each produced dozens 
> of pictures that stick in my mind.
> 
> Probably says more about me than it does about HCB though.
> 
> And yes, I know he isn't dead yet.
> 
> Neil
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: robertmeier@usjet.net [mailto:robertmeier@usjet.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 6:00 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Critic
> 
> 
>> So Bob said:
>>>>> Yes, in the right circumstances.  At just the right moment.  With 
>>>>> many
>>> reflections and repetitions of the motion.<<<<<<<
>> 
>> So Bob what your saying is....
>> 
>> Where HCB had the guy jump more than once, that's still a decisive 
>> moment even though it was staged several times?
>> 
> 
> Ted,  no, I didn't say that, nor mean that.   The repetitions are in
the
> poster behind him which shows a circus performer in the same position,

> roughly, that the jumper is in, and the various semi-circles in the 
> water (and elsewhere I remember, but I don't have the picture infront 
> of me) that repeat the lines of his arms, etc.
> 
>> I see that as a repetitive moment, not a decisive moment.  Any idiot 
>> photographer worth his salt can have someone do an action many times 
>> and eventually capture something decisive looking. Then of course 
>> over a 60
> year
>> or more span create the myth of it being caught as a one shot 
>> decisive moment.
>> 
> 
> Are you charging that HCB staged this shot?  What is the basis for 
> your accusation?
> 
> 
> 
>> I stick by my earlier comment, this picture of the critic with arms
> raised,
>> as we see it presented here, is as decisive a moment as the 
>> re-creations
> by
>> HCB. Why shouldn't it be. Hell if it were presented as an HCB 
>> everyone
> would
>> pee their pants with "Oh man he's the greatest!"
>> 
> A decisive moment, certainly.     But "the re-creations by HCB"?  You
think
> ALL of his pictures were staged?
> 
> Bob
> 
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