Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/05/05
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Jeffery, I cannot quite describe the Nokton's bokeh, but I really found it harsh and ugly. I am a big fan of the Cosina/Voigtlander offerings in general (I have a Bessa R2 and the 21, 25 and 35mm lenses) but the Nokton I really disliked because of the bokeh. Nathan Jeffery Smith wrote: > > I only agree half with you, Nathan. You named the Summicron first, and > then switched to the Summilux. :-) > > I would have said the Nokton simply because I don't have the Summilux, > but the combination of size, weight, speed, and optical qualities make a > 50/1.5 lens my top pick. Try to go any faster than that, and you are > lugging a ton of weight. > > For the LUGer, it's a 50/1.4 Summilux. For the novice, it's the Nokton. > > What's wrong with the Nokton's bokeh? > > Jeffery Smith > New Orleans, LA > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+jls=runbox.com@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Nathan > Wajsman > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:52 AM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: Re: [Leica] best all round 50 mm?? > > Hi Ruben, > > The obvious answer to your question is the 50mm Summicron. I have owned > it, as well as a Noctilux, a Voigtlander Nokton, and a Summilux (no all > at the same time). In the end, I ended up with the Summilux, as the best > compromise between speed, size, price (I bought it new but at a very > good price from a dealer in Germany) and image quality. > > I would say it like this: > - for ultimate speed, obviously the Noctilux > - for best image quality, the Summicron (but you are limited to f2) > - for greatest flexibility, the Summilux > - the low cost option is a Nokton, but I hated its bokeh, and since I > shoot a lot with wide apertures, the bokeh is important to me. > > Whatever you do, do not buy it in Copenhagen--every time I stop by > Photografica or Foto AV, I am horrified by the high prices. > > Nathan > > Ruben wrote: > > > > I use my 35 mm summicron (non asph, ca. 1990) 85% of the time and my > 90 mm > > 15% on my M6. I never used normal lenses much, but by using them in > > medium-format I found that I am beginning to like them more and more. > Since > > I never tried a normal 50 mm on my M6, and since I would probably not > use it > > more them say 15-20 % of the time (time mostly taken by the amount I > would > > have used the 35 mm) I do not want to use a fortune on a lens - I dont > need > > the noctilux F 1.0, but I would like go for a lens of max F.2.0 like > the > > summicron. Question ?? some of you shooting a lot of 50 mm with > experience > > of different optics - what would be the best 50 mm allround optics, > with an > > image quality like my 35 mm summicron - would some of the olde optics > be as > > good - and what about voigtl?nder? I shoot a lot of pictures with > little DOF > > so i prefere not to have optics showing pantagon/hexagon shaped > highlights > > in the background > > ruben > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > -- > Nathan Wajsman > Almere, The Netherlands > > e-mail: n.wajsman@chello.nl > Mobile: +31 630 868 671 > > http://www.nathanfoto.com/index.html > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information -- Nathan Wajsman Almere, The Netherlands e-mail: n.wajsman@chello.nl Mobile: +31 630 868 671 http://www.nathanfoto.com/index.html