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Subject: [Leica] Slides the cat has gone to kitty heaven
From: philippe.orlent at pandora.be (Philippe Orlent)
Date: Thu Apr 15 15:46:31 2004

Suggestion: start a website called proandconpets.com. Start a second one
called myopiniononglobalproblems.com. And continue this over there.
My sincere condoleances to the first poster, though.

> From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:41:06 +0200
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Slides the cat has gone to kitty heaven
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge@mac.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Slides the cat has gone to kitty heaven
> 
> 
>> On 4/15/04 <sam@osheaven.net (Sam)> thoughtfully wrote:
>> 
>>> To some, the death of a pet is akin to the death of a child, and to
>>> others the emotional resources and money spent on animals is a  scandal.
>>> If the time and energy spent taking care of pets was expended on
>>> visiting the abandoned sick and aged, or the money spent on having a pet
>>> operated on was paid into the medical account of an uninsured sick and
>>> needy human being, so much suffering could be alleviated. It baffles me
>>> when someone fains concern (many times via documentary photography) for,
>>> example, a bloated, fly covered, starving African child, and then rushes
>>> in the Volvo to the Vets to have the dog operated on for cancer at a
>>> cost of $5,000. Vanity pets have no place in a world of suffering human
>>> beings.
>> 
>> I understand what you're driving at Sam, but I think the equation is quite
>> different because for many of us our pets are family members. We know
> them, we
>> love them, they fill a part of our lives that is clearly built into our
> species.
>> I see that what appears to be a pet was buried with a human being as early
> as
>> 5000 B.C.
>> 
>> It's LOGICAL to say "yes, the right decision is to not spend this money."
> But
>> the emotional equation is quite different.
>> 
>> When our dog Wags was so ill we made the choice to keep her comfortable
> rather
>> than expend a vast quantity of money for a short life extension and
> perhaps a
>> life filled with an unknowable amount of pain.
>> 
>> This decision was just as hard for me as the one I made a few months ago
> for the
>> treatment of my severely retarded sister who at age 60, with no
> communication
>> ability, no real ability to express pain, was discovered to have an
> operable but
>> difficult condition. I elected to treat that condition with surgery even
> though
>> the physicians who were treating her gave such different points of view
> that I
>> couldn't believe they were talking about the same patient. AND, after the
> fact,
>> they were unwilling to aggressively treat her for pain, which I found
>> intolerable and almost neglectful.
>> 
>> And it was similiar to the decision my wife and I made for our first child
> after
>> she "survived" a drowning in a fish pond but who was so severely
> brain-damaged
>> that she was unable even to recognize the existance of an outside world.
>> 
>> These were hard choices. They SHOULD be hard choices. But they are HUMAN
>> choices. Some of us have the where-with-all to treat our pets, our
> non-human
>> family members, with compassion and caring and money. We would no more
> neglect
>> the care of our family, in favor for a stranger far away, than we would
> shoot
>> them.
>> 
>> Now that's me. That's me defending my family, pets and children and spouse
> and
>> the more extended members as well. But I submit it's human and has every
> bit as
>> much rightness to its decision as that of the person who puts down his dog
> and
>> writes the check to save an unknown person.
>> 
>> It's not about vanity. It's about family and compasion. Vanity isn't a
> part of
>> it.
>> 
>> Adam Bridge
>> 
> I don,t think the argument is  logical.
> Even though as humans we value the child more then the cat .There is no
> proof that it is immoral to spend money on the cat iso on the child.
> Logically one might have to spend an equal amount on the two .
> simon jessurun
> 
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Replies: Reply from sam at osheaven.net (Sam) ([Leica] Slides the cat has gone to kitty heaven)
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