Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/03/11

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Subject: Re: [Leica] PAW and conflicted with PhotoShop
From: "lea" <lea@whinydogpress.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 19:16:57 -0600
References: <BC7631F9.5A025%mak@teleport.com> <02f001c407c1$fb406340$6b01a8c0@wbalaw.com> <081c01c407ca$46f92da0$ce771a41@leaetrg64tja2w> <035901c407cd$98c4a210$6b01a8c0@wbalaw.com>

Well, I think so far as hiding  your changes it's a technique problem
rather than a screen problem. It appears that you 'painted over' the
bright spots using longish brush strokes; changes like this are best
done by 'dabbing' new pixels over the old ones...not making a 'line'
with any of the tools in PS. And if cloning, always be certain to sample
from very near the offending spot...that way you're more likely to cover
with correctly colored/toned pixels...and don't hesitate to resample
often from a new area as tones change quickly when moving across an
image.

You may have made the change by using a sampled single color as it
appears that your change is a lightish gray but lacks the 'grain' of the
surrounding area. To avoid that, you could select the newly painted area
and add grain via a filter or you could have selected an area with the
selection lasso tool, copied it, dragged it over the bright spots and
dropped it down. If you do it this way, always be sure to feather your
selection so the edges aren't obvious.

Hope I've been of some help.
Lea

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith R. Wessel" <keith@wbalaw.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] PAW and conflicted with PhotoShop


> Thanks for the feedback.  I could not see the changes at all.  Since
you and
> Sonny made your comments I turned up the brightness on my screen and
sure
> enough I could see them.  Particularly loss of grain.  I had my screen
set
> so that the blacks are very deep so the picture looked the way I would
print
> in a darkroom.
>
> This just brings me back to how does one anticipate other screen
settings
> and what will be seen?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "lea" <lea@whinydogpress.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] PAW and conflicted with PhotoShop
>
>
> > Do you consider it cheating to use the automatic door locks in your
car
> > rather than pushing them down and pulling them up by hand?
> >
> > Technology advances, things change. Don't hesitate to use the tools
> > available to get the job done.
> >
> > I believe someone else pointed out that the changes made in the
image
> > were obvious...that's the only bad thing I saw but other than that I
> > think you're right on track.
> >
> > My 2 cents...
> > Lea
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Keith R. Wessel" <keith@wbalaw.com>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:38 PM
> > Subject: [Leica] PAW and conflicted with PhotoShop
> >
> >
> > > I am putting up my efforts for weeks 10 and 11.  In week 10  I
took a
> > > photograph that I particularly liked at my associates wedding
> > reception.
> > > But, as I was looking at it I didn't like all of the clutter in
the
> > > background.
> > >
> > > see http://wesselphoto.com/paw/10/slides/72_5A_0229.html
> > >
> > > so I used PhotoShop and took out the clutter.
> > >
> > > see
> > >
> > > http://wesselphoto.com/paw/10/slides/altered.html
> > >
> > > Is that cheating?  Sure would not have tried this in the darkroom.
> > Maybe I
> > > should check the archives -- I suspect there has been a previous
> > debate.
> > >
> > > Other new ones:
> > >
> > > http://wesselphoto.com/paw/10/index.html
> > >
> > > http://wesselphoto.com/paw/11/index.html
> > >
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